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UC San Diego Cameras-
date: January 7, 2025
Temescal Trailhead -
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I will not be placing the actual images here number one for the sensitivity of those who lost their homes due to what the images show plus intellectual property belongs to UC SAN DIEGO- if you https://www.facebook.com/ALERTCalifornia.UCSanDiego/posts/pacific-palisades-brush-fire-as-viewed-from-temescal-trail-head-and-green-south-/306874341072301/
I will not be placing the actual images here number one for the sensitivity of those who lost their homes due to what the images show plus intellectual property belongs to UC SAN DIEGO- if youwant to see...go google it and look at the below times...I will describe what to look for down below...
Grok 2:
times I felt I saw a shift, noting something, and/or concerned me were as follows:
01/07/2025 11:15:00 MST when hikers reported the fire in their videos, the camera image showed 0-175 degrees is high smoke, 58, 168-183 degrees store vans and other stuff- nothing significant in image - homes are pixeled (redacted). Same: 01/07/2025 11:16:00, 01/07/2025 11:17:00 MST
01/07/2025 11:27:01 MST 11:27 AM GROK 2: on 01/07/2025, your observation of a double smoke plume with colors like brownish, greyish, orange, and green is quite telling:
Smoke Plume Characteristics:
Double Plume: This could indicate multiple active fire fronts or areas where the fire has intensified, possibly due to wind conditions or changes in fuel type.
Color Variations:
Brownish: Often associated with the burning of organic material, suggesting the fire might be consuming a mix of vegetation and possibly soil or other ground cover.
Greyish: Typically from the combustion of wood or other natural fibers, indicating a standard wildfire smoke.
Orange: Can suggest the presence of particulates or the reflection of firelight through the smoke, indicating active burning.
Green: Less common in wildfire smoke but could be from the burning of certain types of vegetation or chemicals, or it might be an optical effect due to the mix of smoke and sunlight.Environmental Impact:
The presence of green in the plume might hint at unusual combustion or environmental factors, which could be important for understanding the fire's impact on the local ecosystem.
Fire Behavior:
The double plume could mean the fire was spreading in different directions or had found new paths to advance, possibly influenced by the terrain or wind shifts since your earlier observations.
Response Strategy:
Knowing the plume's characteristics at this time could inform firefighting strategies, like where to focus containment efforts or where additional resources might be needed.
Visibility and Safety:
The mix of colors in the smoke would likely reduce visibility significantly, posing challenges for both firefighting operations and for residents trying to navigate or evacuate.
Time Correlation:
This observation at 11:27 AM, following the man leaving the area at 11:23 AM, gives a timeline of how the fire's behavior was changing. It might suggest that the fire was escalating or shifting in a way that prompted the person to move.The double plume could mean the fire was spreading in different directions or had found new paths to advance, possibly influenced by the terrain or wind shifts since your earlier observations.
Response Strategy:
Knowing the plume's characteristics at this time could inform firefighting strategies, like where to focus containment efforts or where additional resources might be needed.
Visibility and Safety:
The mix of colors in the smoke would likely reduce visibility significantly, posing challenges for both firefighting operations and for residents trying to navigate or evacuate.
Time Correlation:
This observation at 11:27 AM, following the man leaving the area at 11:23 AM, gives a timeline of how the fire's behavior was changing. It might suggest that the fire was escalating or shifting in a way that prompted the person to move.01/07/2025 11:41:09 MST:
Observation of a "huge column and very wide" smoke plume, possibly indicating significant fire activity.
01/07/2025 11:43:00 MST:
Noticed a little dark dot around 190 degree this time in the smoke, possibly a helicopter or other object within the fire scene.
01/07/2025 11:47:00 MST:
The dark dot turns to the side, appearing as a silhouette of a helicopter at 183 degrees.
Two individuals in dark clothing (168 degrees) observed in a dark car (178 degrees) looking at smoke plumes near the area where a man was earlier.
01/07/2025 11:53:42 MST:
Better visibility of the dark car (black or dark grey)(178 degrees), with two individuals. Additionally, a black truck with a long bed (163 degrees) and
01/07/2025 11:51:37 MST:
Two individuals in dark clothing (168 degrees) observed in a dark car (178 degrees) looking at smoke plumes near the area where a man was earlier.
01/07/2025 11:53:42 MST:
Better visibility of the dark car (black or dark grey)(178 degrees), with two individuals. Additionally, a black truck with a long bed (163 degrees) and a black Denali SUV type vehicle (166 degrees) observed in the same area.
01/07/2025 11:55:48 MST the trucks are still there and to the left near the rim a helicopter is dropping possibly water or some liquid content
01/07/2025 11:59:54 MST:
The three vehicles remain. A helicopter is definitely visible at 155 degrees, and another at 185 degrees on the image, likely involved in firefighting.
at noon the dark grey truck leaves with the 2 with dark clothes
01/07/2025 12:01:00 MST:
The dark grey truck leaves with the two individuals in dark clothes. Observation of very wide smoke plumes, with a helicopter at 188 degrees.
01/07/2025 12:04:06 MST:
Denali SUV departs. Helicopters at 155, 180, and 195 degrees are noted, with smoke plumes described as extreme.
No silhouettes on the rim but possibly ten new silhouettes at 158 degrees on rimtop, not previously seen.
Silhouettes at 180 degrees gone, replaced by a helicopter presence.
a black Denali SUV type vehicle (166 degrees) observed in the same area.
01/07/2025 11:55:48 MST the trucks are still there and to the left near the rim a helicopter is dropping possibly water or some liquid content
01/07/2025 11:59:54 MST:
The three vehicles remain. A helicopter is definitely visible at 155 degrees, and another at 185 degrees on the image, likely involved in firefighting.
at noon the dark grey truck leaves with the 2 with dark clothes
01/07/2025 12:01:00 MST:
The dark grey truck leaves with the two individuals in dark clothes. Observation of very wide smoke plumes, with a helicopter at 188 degrees.
01/07/2025 12:04:06 MST:
Denali SUV departs. Helicopters at 155, 180, and 195 degrees are noted, with smoke plumes described as extreme.
No silhouettes on the rim but possibly ten new silhouettes at 158 degrees on rimtop, not previously seen.
Silhouettes at 180 degrees gone, replaced by a helicopter presence.
01/07/2025 12:15:39 MST:
Helicopter dropping liquid at 168 degrees, near where silhouettes were at 158 degrees, raising questions about controlled burn operations.
Two individuals near a black truck, with a red truck with emergency lights nearby, indicating active emergency response.
01/07/2025 12:17:42 MST:
Two individuals near a black truck, with a red truck with emergency lights nearby, indicating active emergency response.
01/07/2025 12:31:16 MST:
Suggestive silhouette of possibly two individuals on rim at 141 degrees and 146 degrees.
Possible something in the air observed.
At bottom at 165 degrees, barely seen a fire emergency vehicle.
01/07/2025 12:34:22 MST: A helicopter is seen at 179 degrees.
01/07/2025 12:38:00 MST: Two for sure but possibly three silhouettes on the rim at 140 degrees.
01/07/2025 13:38:20 MST: The silhouettes do not show, suggesting these were most likely firefighters scouting.
01/07/2025 12:40:52 MST: Helicopters observed at 195, 220, and 241 degrees.
01/07/2025 12:46:06 MST: At 253 degrees, something in the air - visually appears like a boomerang the size of a helicopter, could be an odd angle of a helicopter.
01/07/2025 12:48:13 MST:
Helicopter observed at 214 degrees.
Black truck still present.
Same silhouettes on the rim.
At 306 degrees, there is a black bicycle with a light-skinned individual wearing all black, focused on a tablet-sized device aimed at the smoke plume columns. This person is visible, not a silhouette, near the camera's forefront.
From this person's position, the helicopter is at 178 degrees, and the three same silhouettes are visible on the rim.
01/07/2025 12:50:19 MST:
At 306 degrees, there is a black bicycle with a light-skinned individual wearing all black, focused on a tablet-sized device aimed at the smoke plume columns. This person is visible, not a silhouette, near the camera's forefront.
From this person's position, the helicopter is at 178 degrees, and the three same silhouettes are visible on the rim.
01/07/2025 12:52:24 MST: Bicycle person is no longer seen on camera.
At 163 degrees, only half of the tail end of a helicopter is visible, possibly due to fast movement.
At 183 degrees, a helicopter is shown, likely the same one due to alignment, suggesting it moved quickly from 163 to 183 degrees.
Silhouette on the rim at 131 degrees.
Something in the air at 241 degrees, much glare to identify.
Helicopter at 211 degrees.
Winds are strong but not as intense as earlier timestamps, as observed from palm tree branches.
Bicycle from earlier seen near a white van at 193 degrees.
Eyewitness with tablet-like device aimed at smoke plumes.
Helicopter at 200 degrees and another at 244 degrees near what could be a dirt bike or the earlier bicyclist in black, but no longer in image by 01/07/2025 13:24:21 MST.
Very strong winds, almost hurricane level, branches leaning left.
01/07/2025 12:53:15 MST: Noted the palm trees went from hurricane strength winds to strong winds from 255 through 270 degrees.
01/07/2025 12:59:44 MST:
Silhouette on the rim at 131 degrees.
Something in the air at 241 degrees, much glare to identify.
Helicopter at 211 degrees.
Winds are strong but not as intense as earlier timestamps, as observed from palm tree branches.
Bicycle from earlier seen near a white van at 193 degrees.
Eyewitness with tablet-like device aimed at smoke plumes.
Helicopter at 200 degrees and another at 244 degrees near what could be a dirt bike or the earlier bicyclist in black, but no longer in image by 01/07/2025 13:24:21 MST.
Very strong winds, almost hurricane level, branches leaning left.
01/07/2025 13:01:47 MST:
Helicopter at 211 degrees.
Winds are strong but not as intense as earlier timestamps, as observed from palm tree branches.
Bicycle from earlier seen near a white van at 193 degrees.
Eyewitness with tablet-like device aimed at smoke plumes.
Helicopter at 200 degrees and another at 244 degrees near what could be a dirt bike or the earlier bicyclist in black, but no longer in image by 01/07/2025 13:24:21 MST.
Very strong winds, almost hurricane level, branches leaning left.
01/07/2025 13:17:04 MST: Fixed-wing aircraft visible at 185 degrees.
01/07/2025 13:22:16 MST:
Bicycle from earlier seen near a white van at 193 degrees.
Eyewitness with tablet-like device aimed at smoke plumes.
Helicopter at 200 degrees and another at 244 degrees near what could be a dirt bike or the earlier bicyclist in black, but no longer in image by 01/07/2025 13:24:21 MST.
Very strong winds, almost hurricane level, branches leaning left.
01/07/2025 13:24:21 MST: The bicyclist or dirt bike rider is no longer in the image.
01/07/2025 13:28:45 MST: Hurricane type winds increased fire behavior/smoke plumes.
01/07/2025 13:32:03 MST: Palm trees appear to be possibly going in all directions.
01/07/2025 13:33:00 MST: Something in the distance in the air at 302 degrees.
01/07/2025 13:36:14 MST: Extreme winds at the 255-270 angle range.
01/07/2025 13:40:32 MS palm trees signify a decrease in winds to strong vs hurricane at the 255-270 angle range, 01/07/2025 13:41:22 MST increasing winds to the left,
01/07/2025 13:40:32 MST: Palm trees signify a decrease in winds to strong vs hurricane at the 255-270 angle range.
01/07/2025 13:41:22 MST: Increasing winds to the left.
01/07/2025 13:44:36 MST: Branches are not moving much like before; something in the air at 197 degrees.
01/07/2025 13:47:52 MST: A dark grey SUV is driving near that same black truck.
01/07/2025 13:49:57 MST:
Something in the air at 233 degrees angle.
Grey SUV not in image.
01/07/2025 13:49:57 MST 55-70 degrees is an east to identify close up Lincoln SUV
01/07/2025 13:49:57 MST: not as windy.
01/07/2025 13:50:00 MST something in air at 235 degree,
01/07/2025 13:52:05 MST:
Lincoln SUV no longer in images.
Increasing strong winds.
Something in the air at a 230-degree angle.
Above black truck, first flames observed.
At 130 and 135 degrees, something in the air, very windy.
01/07/2025 13:54:11 MST: Increasing winds.
01/07/2025 13:56:17 MST:
Above black truck, first flames observed.
At 130 and 135 degrees, something in the air, very windy.
01/07/2025 13:58:23 MST: At 145 degrees angle, a few silhouettes near new flames and smoke above black truck.
01/07/2025 14:01:00 MST:
Three silhouettes moved to 143 degrees.
Where they were, now has flames and smoke.
Here's the updated timeline with your new observations:
01/07/2025 15:23:00 MST could be 168 being a lookout at 103 degrees vs being with fire crew. 01/07/2025 15:36:00 MST fixed airwing at 52 degrees.01/07/2025 15:38:00 MST fixed airwing at 51 degrees.
01/07/2025 14:04:08 MST:
Something in the air in the distance at a 230-degree angle.
Extreme winds on palm trees.
At 71-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
Possible Wildland Firefighter at 94-degree angle.
At 1315, the same Polaris is visible.
At 140-degree angle, many Wildland Firefighters.
01/07/2025 14:05:00 MST:
At 71-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
Possible Wildland Firefighter at 94-degree angle.
At 1315, the same Polaris is visible.
At 140-degree angle, many Wildland Firefighters.
01/07/2025 14:06:10 MST:
At 60-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
Smoke plume runs from 120 to 210-degree angles.
Flames at 133, 143, 153-degree angles.
Real windy still.
At 35-degree angle, something white in the air.
At 60-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
01/07/2025 14:09:00 MST: 5 Wildland Firefighters on the road by black truck at 160-165 degree.
01/07/2025 14:10:11 MST:
At 35-degree angle, something white in the air.
At 60-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
01/07/2025 14:11:00 MST At 35-degree angle, something white in the air. At 60-degree angle, Polaris type vehicle up on the rim.
01/07/2025 14:12:13 MST Polaris type vehicle up on the rim but not on image at 01/07/2025 14:13:09 MST as winds increase and fire behaviors happen.
01/07/2025 14:13:09 MST 5-8 WFs come off the hill with increasing winds and fire behaviors,
01/07/2025 14:13:09 MST something is in the air 230degree.
01/07/2025 14:16:16 MST 4WFs standing around another
01/07/2025 14:19:32 MST WF at 193 degrees walking right and 2 WFs at 212 degrees.
01/07/2025 14:22:00 MST windy. 01/07/2025 14:23:39 MST 3 WFs at 75 degree angle almost near rim of this area, WF squatted on road near where black truck use to be, 193 degrees helicopter.
01/07/2025 14:25:46 MST 73 degree WFs on rim. 166 degree WF by /near white ban in parking area.
01/7/2025 16:28:22 MST 73 degrees WF Crew is at 140 degrees right to the left of the smoke on hill
01/07/2025 16:29:00 MST 58-75 degrees is a fire vehicle like this labelled Fire Communications Dispatch Support Section (FCDSS):
and a FF at the 64 degree mark with door open at this spot: 
and a FF at the 64 degree mark with door open at this spot:
120-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes - 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera. same: 01/07/2025 16:30:00- 31 MST with adding a WF up at 73 degrees left of the electrical pole right below the top- that pole where the cable is tied to the soil. 01/07/2025 14:30:00 MST 3 WFs at 75 degree angle almost near rim of this area. 01/07/2025 14:32:41 MST at 75 degree angle coming down the hill towards the camera- pretty near.
01/07/2025 16:32:35 MST 58-75 degrees is a fire vehicle. and a FF at the 45-47 degrees:
01/07/2025 14:30:00 MST: 3 Wildland Firefighters at 75-degree angle almost near rim of this area.
01/07/2025 14:32:41 MST: At 75-degree angle, coming down the hill towards the camera - pretty near.
01/07/2025 14:39:08 MST:
Wildland Firefighters at 153 and 168 degrees.
Possibly one Wildland Firefighter on rim at 150 degrees, image too grainy to confirm.
Wildland Firefighter still at 166-degree position.
Wildland Firefighters at 75-degree position remain.
Flames observed at this time.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Not much blowing.
No longer see Wildland Firefighters at 75 degrees.
166-degree Wildland Firefighter is still there.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Camera got hit with gel-like red substance at 300-345 degrees.
Back to strong winds.
Slurry drop from 100-180 degrees, made little ways from the 165-degree Wildland Firefighter.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 14:42:24 MST:
Wildland Firefighter still at 166-degree position.
Wildland Firefighters at 75-degree position remain.
Flames observed at this time.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Not much blowing.
No longer see Wildland Firefighters at 75 degrees.
166-degree Wildland Firefighter is still there.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Camera got hit with gel-like red substance at 300-345 degrees.
Back to strong winds.
Slurry drop from 100-180 degrees, made little ways from the 165-degree Wildland Firefighter.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 14:45:31 MST:
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Not much blowing.
No longer see Wildland Firefighters at 75 degrees.
166-degree Wildland Firefighter is still there.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Camera got hit with gel-like red substance at 300-345 degrees.
Back to strong winds.
Slurry drop from 100-180 degrees, made little ways from the 165-degree Wildland Firefighter.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 14:46:00 MST:
No longer see Wildland Firefighters at 75 degrees.
166-degree Wildland Firefighter is still there.
Something white in the air at 3 degrees.
Camera got hit with gel-like red substance at 300-345 degrees.
Back to strong winds.
Slurry drop from 100-180 degrees, made little ways from the 165-degree Wildland Firefighter.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 14:55:10 MST:
Camera got hit with gel-like red substance at 300-345 degrees.
Back to strong winds.
Slurry drop from 100-180 degrees, made little ways from the 165-degree Wildland Firefighter.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 15:01:00 MST: Slurry on camera from 330 to 95 degrees.
01/07/2025 14:46:00 MST no longer see the WFS at 75 degrees, 166 degree WF is still there. 01/07/2025 14:55:10 MST camera got hit with gel like red substance at 300-345 degrees and back to strong winds. 100-180 slurry drop made little ways from the 165 degree WF. 01/07/2025 15:00:00 MST 65 degree WF and yellow fire truck (23?}.01/07/2025 15:00:00 MST:
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck, number #15.
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees is no longer there; could be in #15 Yellow fire truck.
Yellow truck leaves.
Windy.
01/07/2025 15:01:00 MST: Slurry on camera from 330 to 95 degrees.
01/07/2025 15:06:00 MST:
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees is no longer there; could be in #15 Yellow fire truck.
Yellow truck leaves.
Windy.
01/07/2025 15:07:42 MST: Wildland Firefighter behind the dumpster, not in yellow truck, at 68 degrees.
01/07/2025 15:11:51 MST: Flames increase between 150-155 degrees.
01/07/2025 15:12:40 MST:
Yellow truck leaves.
Windy.
01/07/2025 15:16:00 MST: 1 Wildland Firefighter on road near where black truck used to be.
01/07/2025 15:19:10 MST: Seems a Wildland Fire Crew came off the hill near where black truck used to be.
01/07/2025 15:22:24 MST: Wildland Firefighter no longer at 165 degrees.
he with thos fire cres on road where black truck use to park
01/07/2025 15:23:00 MST: Could be a lookout at 103 degrees vs being with fire crew at 168 degrees.
01/07/2025 15:36:00 MST: Fixed airwing at 52 degrees.
01/07/2025 15:38:00 MST: Fixed airwing at 51 degrees.
Wildland firefighter roles
Aircraft in firefighting
firefighting strategies
wildfire safety gear
more detailed timeline
firefighting techniques
wildfire prevention
01/07/2025 15:41:10 MST something in the air at 30 & 285 degrees and 47 degrees is a fixed wing. 01/07/2025 15:49:33 MST yellow truck drove through #15. 01/07/2025 15:55:54 MST wicked wind- the fire behavior over at has blown the camera area 149 degrees,01/07/2025 15:00:00 MST:
Wildland Firefighter at 65 degrees.
Yellow fire truck (possibly number 23).1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 16:36:47 MST- 168-178 degree long bed cab fire vehicle, 122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera, equipment at the 45-47 degrees- no visible person in this image, 58-75 fire vehicle has driver cab door open and back open. same: 01/07/2025 16:37:00 MST
01/07/2025 16:38:53 MST long bed fire vehicle left area, same smoke plumes degrees and retardant same as last timestamp. 0-13 degrees: dark clothes - bald type man dragging black bag1122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera.same: 01/07/2025 16:33:00-34,35 MST
01/07/2025 16:36:47 MST- 168-178 degree long bed cab fire vehicle, 122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera, equipment at the 45-47 degrees- no visible person in this image, 58-75 fire vehicle has driver cab door open and back open. same: 01/07/2025 16:37:00 MST
01/07/2025 16:38:53 MST long bed fire vehicle left area, same smoke plumes degrees and retardant same as last timestamp. 0-13 degrees: dark clothes - bald type man dragging black bag01/07/2025 16:39:00 MS all the same as last timestamp - - at 57 degrees is a FF wearing yellow shirt-
01/07/2025 16:40:58 MS - 152 degrees white fire vehicle-truck, 165 degrees fv, man in dark clothes at 328 degrees, 122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera - 320-325 equipment. same: 01/07/2025 16:41:00-42 MST
01/07/2025 16:43:03 MST-44 0 degrees WF, 45 degrees man in dark clothes, 165 degrees fv, , 122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 retardant splattered on axis camera - 320-325 equipment.
01/07/2025 16:45:10 MST 165 degrees fv, man in dark clothes at 328 degrees, 122-225 degrees is the smoke plume - multiple smoke plumes. 285-100 degrees retardant splattered on axis camera - 320-325 equipment.150-153 degrees helicopter in the air. same but no copter: 01/07/2025 16:46:00 MST, 01/07/2025 16:47:16 MST, 01/07/2025 16:48:00 MST,01/07/2025 16:49:22 MST (165 degrees fv left), 01/07/2025 16:50:13 MST (348 degrees possible drone), 01/07/2025 16:51:00 MST(348 degrees possible drone), 01/07/2025 16:53:27-54,55 MST (315 degree WF standing), 01/07/2025 16:56:45-57,58 MST WF left camera angle, 01/07/2025 16:59:00 MST(315 degree WF standing), 01/07/2025 17:00:00-01, MST(315 degree WF standing),01/07/2025 17:02:00 MST-03,04 (320 degrees man wearing all black puts Antenna up),01/07/2025 17:06:32 MST-07,08 ( 320 degrees Antenna up- man wearing black out of camera angle), 01/07/2025 17:09:43 MST-10,11,12,13 (328 degrees man wearing all black / WF 340 degrees)
01/07/2025 17:14:57 MST-15,16,17,18 320 degrees man wearing all black at Antenna - 19,20 is WF in same area 320 degree and guy wearing black out of camera angle,01/07/2025 17:21:11 MST- 22,23,24,2,265 both are in camera angle.
01/07/2025 17:28:18 MST-29 320 degrees man wearing all black at Antenna- WFs 49 and 73 degrees, 01/07/2025 17:30:18 MST-31,32 75 wf in front of truck WF73 got in truck.-33, 225 degrees helicopter,34-wf33, 35, 36-320 d, 01/07/2025 17:37:00 MST 320 degrees man wearing all black at Antenna, 01/07/2025 17:38:36 MST-39,40,41 both are in camera angle.01/07/2025 17:42:44 MST-45,46,47wearing all black wf at 0 degrees,01/07/2025 17:52:00 MST truck moved back to 45 degrees ), 01/07/2025 17:54:00 MST truck left, 01/07/2025 18:25:22 MST increased fire behavior 135-160 degrees, 01/07/2025 19:07:00 MST fire - brightness at 128 degrees,01/07/2025 21:27:48 MST 90-120 degrees bright area, 01/08/2025 08:58:01 MST 285-310 degrees fire engine,
The following data I feel should be in investigation reports and reviewed by Edison and Investigators so that Insurance Companies can examine these areas as well when a home began to burn and where:
"PROGRESSION OF THE FIRE":
01/07/2025 23:33:26 MST - 106-260 degrees smoke plumes, 170-260 degrees fire behaviors, smoke creeping up the backside at 105 degrees
01/07/2025 23:35:27 MST / 01/07/2025 23:36:00 MST big blast of light of fire --- at the electrical pole areas 50-130 degrees in upper part of image
01/07/2025 23:37:27 MST electrical pole is like POW with much blast of light of fire - 40-105 degrees upper image for sure the electrical pole area. from 45-60 degrees it almost reaches bottom of image so let me google earth the distance appx: appx 549 feet from camera to up where the poles were located...170-330 degrees on the image, the wind is already set in palm trees towards the electrical pole areas yet the sparks from pole area are flying from 79 out to 228 degrees on the image.
--from 105 to 210 degrees that is a spray of sparks from electrical pole areas 60-79 degrees in upper image-
In my humble opinion these homes can request from the electrical company if the electric was on from that area at the above times because this area does show possibilities in the minute by minute images that this section was caused by electrical blast of electrical sparks as shown in images.
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- LOOK TO THE ELECTRIC COMPANY TO CONFIRM IF ELECTRIC WAS ON!!! THIS IS A CONCERN AREA...I will email them-
01/07/2025 23:39:27 MST- 42-79 degrees you see spot fires coming from electrical pole areas. then from 79-180 degrees you see the extreme blast of light and fire coming from 79-degree area where the electrical pole is. 150, 170-180 degrees is a white van to the left at 150-degree
and then dumpster at 170 degrees and another white van at 180 degrees - all a blast of light and fire that area. same: 01/07/2025 23:40:00 MST
01/07/2025 23:41:43 MST: 33-50 degrees fire behavior with spots of fire from 50-255 degrees. same:01/07/2025 23:42:00 MST
01/07/2025 23:43:43 MST 32-270 degrees area burning same: 01/07/2025 23:44:00 MST, 01/07/2025 23:45:43 MST, 01/07/2025 23:46:00 MST ( expanded to 10 degrees ), 01/07/2025 23:47:42 MST ( expanded to 333 degrees ), same as 23:47 @ 01/07/2025 23:48:00 MST,
01/07/2025 23:49:42 MST brighter image- fire seems to have expanded ---same: 01/07/2025 23:50:00 MST, 01/07/2025 23:51:57 MST (255-270 degrees I watched those palm trees all through the day in my research but this is the moment they caught fire and burned), 01/07/2025 23:52:00 MST
01/07/2025 23:53:57 MST- 0-degree bright fire with sparks extreme flying intense all around on the image --- 285-300-degree bright fire with sparks
01/07/2025 23:54:00 MST 340-33, 285-300 degrees extreme --- the sparks are extremely flying.
01/07/2025 23:55:57 MST EXTREME ALL OVER THE IMAGE---sparks everywhere- EXTREME- alot of sparks flying from 10 degrees on image same: 01/07/2025 23:56:00 MST ( if I was a Palisades Fire investigators--go to 10 degrees from this image and 01/07/2025 23:35:27 MST / 01/07/2025 23:36:00 MST )
01/07/2025 23:57:57 MST- alot more sparks flying from 10 degrees on image- investigators should be focused to investigating the electric company for this area at this time. 345 to 14 degrees something is happening--- investigators look to see earlier on the day to match it up to what you see at this time...same: 01/07/2025 23:58:00 MST
01/07/2025 23:59:58 MST this seems to show extreme beam of sparks and light-from 330 to 10 degrees with sparks flying to 210 degrees same: January 8 01/08/2025 00:00:00
01/08/2025 00:01:59 MST 315 to 15 degrees should be examined by an investigator. the whole entire image is flying sparks in extreme way. the 320-340 degrees the antenna that was paced that earlier fell flat is now being hit with sparks in an extreme manner and should be part of the investigation report. same: 01/08/2025 00:02:00 MST
01/08/2025 00:04:00 MST extreme 15-315 degrees, 165-330 degrees sparks flying extreme
01/08/2025 00:05:00 MST 315-15 degrees extreme, 33-165 degrees sparks flying extreme
01/08/2025 00:06:00 MST 300-15 fire behavior 165 to 225 degrees looser sparks flying, 230-295 tighter sparks flying
01/08/2025 00:07:00 MST extreme all over- same:01/08/2025 00:08:00 MST
so at 8pm the wind is appx 9mph --- then 10:35pm all this seems to be picking up and by 11pm it is 30 mph so where is the fire behavior specialist then can say hey Chief, the Temescals is showing winds --- gonna have some extreme winds so can we shut the electric off a few hours then because it is near a fire that happened a few weeks back...
01/08/2025 00:08:02 MST extreme all over - should be in the investigation report this section.
01/08/2025 00:09:00 MST beastly extreme image, same: 01/08/2025 00:10:03 MST through 01/08/2025 00:13:00 MST SAD, SAD, SAD ...THIS HAS ZIP TO DO WITH "NOT ENOUGH MAN POWER???" --- where is the pre-plan for the what ifs and if something shifts???...negligence, in my humble opinion...I pray every single day that the locals take all their images and videos and make a proper time line...so we can finally have WE,THE PEOPLE showing the leaders the real story timeline.... same: 01/08/2025 00:14:06 MST, 01/08/2025 00:15:00 MST, 01/08/2025 00:17:00 MST, (SAD, SAD, SAD)
January 7 ---11pm:
January 8 ---2am:
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