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Video 67:
Transcript
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good afternoon it's uh 4 16 p.m on
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September 23rd 2023. currently uh this
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post is regards to and it's stated
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please sign my petition it's a petition
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over on change.org
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and it's what does it take for the feds
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to investigate Arizona law enforcement
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departments it's got 128 signatures some
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aiming to get 250 but why stop there
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let's go for a thousand and more so in
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it I just pray that my friends
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her last moment is told in Truth versus
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the glazed narratives and the raw
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footage shows it all it's similar when I
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say the Rob footage shows it all it's
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similar onto the aftermath of what I've
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had to listen in my public records and
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foius on the Yarnell Hill fire 2013.
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Donna Gordon she was my Yarnell hillfire
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2013 truth teller
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really think it's of good etiquette to
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tell you the details but I can tell you
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Donna Gordon rip on August 26 2022 was
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struck and killed by Yavapai County
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Sheriff's Office sergeant
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and I just want her and of life story to
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be told in truth
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so please help me get her end of story
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documented correctly for the records
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versus the rubbish that we were fed
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through the media which they get from
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their public information areas so what
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happened to investigative journalism I I
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really don't know but so far in almost a
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year not one media or a public
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information officer will share the true
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story even though the raw footage does
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show it so I just want I believe she
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deserves her truth and be told we all do
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we walk those streets in Yarnell Arizona
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and so I think it's crucial and I've
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actually kind of find it to be appalling
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after all this time that they feel that
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it's okay so please sign this petition
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to help her get to the FBI to push this
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in her end of life story to the front
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too bad it wasn't on her first
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anniversary of August 26 2022 however
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FBI I can give you some more information
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and as you know metadata on technology
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going back to Yarnell fire 2013 you can
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do it right here with Donna Gordon the
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key people and the report
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just do that and again the high question
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uh does this fall under some sort of
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federal offense
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um I don't know all that information is
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not my lingo or area but false
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information or omissions on an incident
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or an investigation uh what does that
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conclude to any kind of uh violations I
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would like to know that you know I think
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the public at large would like to know
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that could you give us some answers I'm
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just a housewife in a small ghost town
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but when you Google it it does look like
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in general there might be being that
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there was a death result and so I just
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would like to know a little bit more
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information why things were just kind of
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like oh well no big deal her life was
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taken from her just like on the grand
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amount Hot Shots area there's more
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information on that so help me get her
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justice because she deserves it and was
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hoping on the first anniversary but it
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didn't happen so let's just have this uh
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deeper investigated because I believe
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the Arizona Department government of
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Public Safety in my humble opinion
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they might have done a job of
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Investigation but to me I am bewildered
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and and kind of find it to be poorly
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done if that's the conclusion they came
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to knowing they had that raw footage you
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know and and what about the eyewitnesses
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you know and another situations so again
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I show you the missing details over um
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on my blog about Yarnell fire 2013 but I
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also do about Donna Gordon and so I just
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want you to know this is the same entity
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that took into safekeeping and the paper
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trail ended with Yavapai County
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Sheriff's Office uh in my public records
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request of foia's nprs and so I'm taking
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a stand for Donna Gordon and I would
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hope that you would sign this petition
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to show that the FBI how her life does
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matter if one wants to view the raw
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footage send me an email but in sending
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that email you're claiming
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that you're waving any effect it would
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have done you mentally physically
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spiritually and you also state by
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accepting the link that you will refrain
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from re-sharing it to keep the paper
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trail tight of where it goes and keep it
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on Target and acknowledge that if you
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knew her I really would advise uh it's
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hard to watch the raw footage if you
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knew her and but it does show the media
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took what was reported by Arizona
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Department of Public Safety Safety and
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the investigators report and it's being
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disingenuous at the least Donna deserves
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her truth to be told we do we live here
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amongst this type of justice system and
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I find it to be very sad with your
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fervent prayers how can this be
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successful
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well we can ask that you pray for God's
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help in completing this mission for
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Donna Gordon let us bring this those in
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dark areas to his grace his love and his
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Mercy please sign the petition and share
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on your social media areas please also I
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prefer a prayer over signed petitions
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for the uncertain that certain people
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can sign as strong of the topic as it is
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God can get a lot more accomplished if
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we just band together in truth and the
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topic does matter
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blessed have a blessed day
Video 68:
Transcript
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so just give you a little bit of
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background uh since before Yarnell Hill
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fire 2013 as a very private person only
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new people in person I wasn't
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interacting with any social media bases
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online I was very private uh to me at
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that point I was trying to learn how to
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Pioneer because I had some really
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declining health issues that I was like
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well if I'm in my closure of my life I
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was really wanting to go walk in a Louis
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Lamour book and live that life in a
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Pioneer style and see if I could even do
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it in this modern days and with my
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health and that's what I did from 2011
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to
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2017 I uh went with text Harold Elton
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Gilligan sunny
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and we did that and so when you think
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about it the push for putting me into a
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public platform was and you could see it
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in the blog I was doing a journal and
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just doing my journal like you want you
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want information a lot of people will
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say oh she's breadcrumber I'm
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breadcrumbing you but I gave you gold
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nuggets along the way it was Zero
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interest for me they'd be interacting
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online
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the point was to see me in person talk
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with me in person be real I'm I really
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have no zero interest in online and so
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some of the things that I've seen in
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social media they used it as a virtual
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weapon for slander liable defamation
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homonym fallacies personal attacks over
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the almost over 10 years and it's still
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going on
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and all I'm doing on my end is
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attempting to reveal the truth with
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documented facts about the Yarnell fire
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and so when you start to see the
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falsehoods and refrain from going to
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those partial opinions that you see
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people will start to learn you should
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see the people that start talking
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negative about me you start learning oh
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my gosh
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that woman has been through so much I'm
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I was on the other end and I heard all
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those things I was the one that they
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said refrain from talking to that woman
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I'm the one that was engaging and
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listening and writing back when someone
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said I'd love nothing more for the list
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of all these people
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so I can knock heads because that's what
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I do for a side job
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yeah it's really important that people
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that have been
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doing that for over 10 years be called
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to the front
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because the most valuable tool to date
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is an investigative media and Wildfire
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today where I learned so much
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information over that 10 years the site
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is a great nugget to gain knowledge and
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I will tell you first off two documented
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eyewitnesses myself and texts were on
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the Weaver mountains June 30th 2013 and
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that entire weekend and my testimonies
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on my blog and we have the First
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Amendment right to give our testimony
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and then some
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and the most uh
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thing I heard is Joy she says she's just
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a housewife hiker she has no fire she
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just goes to the classes and academies
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and she thinks she's this and that I
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don't think anything I went to the
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school
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I'm certified of course
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and I do know a lot more than I say
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and those certifications are just that
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they don't have any task books behind it
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but I'll tell you this in Wildland fire
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I know probably know more than the most
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people that are pencil whipped in there
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yeah the nepotism and the cronyism that
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are seen how about this go look at city
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of Prescott payroll for the firefighters
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in 2013 and you go look at them today
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well you can go on my blog because I do
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put the pay rate out there some of them
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are 100 to 164
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000 a year people
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yeah so and that's a topic we need to
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discuss because some if you look at some
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payroll compared to another payroll
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that's a red flag or something that's
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shelf that needs to be discussed at a
4:15
later date you know one of the things is
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when I'm trying to get things out
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distractions happen
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so when I'm getting ready to settle in
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and go ahead and start putting records
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out
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somebody comes in his tracks and it's
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not easy to stop those distractions
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because some of them try to get them to
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a legislative level
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to a higher authority involved Yavapai
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County Sheriff's Office towards my way
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when I didn't have anything to do with
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any Landing but I was the Target and
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that as you see on the blog I explain
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that you know those are things that are
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pretty damaging the defamation that hap
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one of the biggest thing that was told
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to Chris a-h-l-e-n-i-u-s
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the person that's needs to start really
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thinking about the words because words
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matter as you said
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you said they threatened to pick us off
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like snipers above the deployment site
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when the families went to the grand
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opening of the State Park
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hey I know that's not in regards to me
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but when you get people answer and
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return like they do
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that's terrible
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this has got to stop the lies
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and it's interesting when they're
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staying that
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they're so much stuff
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they threatened they disparged they lied
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they published false harmful information
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and it's in my mind to do so
5:51
you know this is not a personal
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popularity contest as you wanted a place
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out to the world not at all
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but when you say Reverend
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r-e-v-v-i-n-i-n
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-t-h-e 207 with a big heart that you
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knock heads has a side job
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that's sad because
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no bullying it's documented facts to
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lead to a conclusion
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and yet that's the Cyber stuff that I
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would see I'm an in-person person and
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I'm having to learn the thread of how
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the cyber world works
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you know I just wanted to cease and
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desist from the awful brainwashing
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techniques to create discords
6:34
disconnects out there in cyberspace you
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have to pay attention how they even
6:39
place these things out to all the
6:41
different people along the way
6:43
I feel for certain firefighters
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when they just want to get on with their
6:48
day and they had a divorce
6:51
and they have health problems
6:53
and then they have a loss of a loved one
6:56
and then they have some person come into
6:58
their office and
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all this stuff all this negative energy
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it's gonna stop when will it stop
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so when I see somebody that's tied to
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that person and they're like oh
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this is the comment I got try and open
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your heart forgive and let this go
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between the both of you
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you can tell this is what this is what
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her person's friend said you can tell
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Joy I forgive her I'm not ready to be
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friends but I release her from whatever
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bondage we created there was never any
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bondage on my end I kept doing the
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documented facts to lead to a conclusion
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which if you look at some of these
7:40
families claims which we will go into
7:43
that along the way and also some of the
7:46
homeowners will go into that discussion
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because that's a big uh thing because
7:52
some of the people that had the biggest
7:54
claims ended up making me that Target
7:57
for some reason and who got in those
7:58
years and what happened there to make
8:00
that happen that's the red flag that's
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something shelf that still needs to be
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discussed
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so these social media distractions
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they're not necessary but that's what
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they do that keeps me from doing what I
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gotta do because I don't want any legal
8:14
silliness you understand it I'm here to
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work together
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to what I have and figure a proper way
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to help
8:20
I know that the fire industry needs a
8:23
lot of lessons learned and a lot of it
8:26
is this uh let's come to a conclusion
8:29
and fill in the gap
8:30
and there's a lot of Swiss cheese left
8:32
behind when you do that so especially
8:34
when you see these uh these uh
8:38
investigation reports come out I mean uh
8:41
you guys that reached me say Joy you're
8:44
spot on because on my fire
8:48
this is
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so when you see they're filming the gaps
8:53
for me I am the probably the biggest
8:55
sponge right now for Wildland fire
8:57
historical significant fires they
9:00
reached me I'm on the phone one in the
9:03
morning two in the morning three in the
9:04
morning four in the morning because
9:06
that's the demons coming out at that
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time wanting to talk
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and they're like I don't have anybody to
9:11
talk to I don't want to put in the books
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I don't want to make any profit but I
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don't I if I put it out who's the right
9:17
who who what do I turn to I mean there I
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will say right here right now zero media
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deserve that right for the ways they
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listen to an editor
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they don't have that right it would have
9:31
to take a special journalist
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who breaks away from the political
9:36
layers and does something then they have
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a right but it's too bad you know it's
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real sad uh that we're at this situation
9:46
that the people try to create division
9:48
when right now more than ever we should
9:51
create Unity Bridge one another together
9:53
I don't know how many times I bridged
9:55
you sisters and brothers to each other
9:57
and you guys built bonds just to have it
10:01
broken because of this person walked
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into your office and said hey
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we can't have this this is not allowed
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you need to have this removed
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help me get this removed
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no that's got to stop we need to clear
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up the lies and the uh
10:21
entitlement that's happening back
10:22
Channel
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and and that's what I'm trying to tell
10:25
you what so a little bit my background
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is uh
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I am a housewife hiker I'm a housewife
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right now
10:33
I used to hike I think the last time I
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hiked was March of this year
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getting ready to do my refresher
10:42
training for Wildland fire uh
10:44
firefighter uh did both one and two
10:47
and so I'm uh student of Fire
10:51
and I'm a student of fire after tragedy
10:52
that I witnessed on June 30th 2013 and
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I'm here to promote cultural change in
10:58
the workforce to emphasize the vital
11:00
importance of leadership Concepts in
11:03
Wildland fire industry I want to provide
11:05
educational and leadership development
11:08
which is a must need change and as well
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makes the wfi
11:12
Wildland fire industry have situational
11:16
awareness that there is a lot of Savvy
11:18
fire weather nerds right now document
11:20
and they have been watching every Fire
11:22
season for the past 20 plus years even
11:26
stronger since 2013 we need to make the
11:29
work environment stronger and great
11:32
again this is my firefighting Journey
11:34
thus far
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so I did defensible space with the local
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Rangers here before embarking a meeting
11:41
with investigating media participant to
11:43
do labor work in exchange for Wildland
11:45
fire education through that networking I
11:48
learned the fire industry refrained from
11:50
I learned and I wanted to make sure I
11:55
wasn't pencil wept in I wanted to earn
11:57
my way through the process I wanted the
11:59
barter trade in exchange
12:01
and that which include bucking loading
12:04
wood
12:05
and it was an ongoing process and still
12:08
is
12:09
I'm taking time to learn slowly the
12:11
Wildland fire courses because they
12:13
provide much golden nuggets in it and
12:16
before it even became credentialed to be
12:17
a law and fire investigator with
12:20
forensic weather I want to make sure I
12:22
know all the layers of the boots on the
12:25
ground all the way to the top all the
12:28
political layers
12:30
so in August 11 2018
12:32
Mr Scheffler wrote me a recommendation
12:35
letter in that recommendation letter he
12:38
acknowledged the mitigation work that I
12:40
did on his property and he said
12:42
since April 2018
12:45
my professional commitment to other
12:47
dedicated Focus areas
12:50
I've known you Joy both professionally
12:52
capacity and personal since 2013.
12:56
due to the common commitment seeking the
12:58
truth of the tragic June 30th 2013
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yarnahill fire including the phenomenal
13:04
tasks you accomplished by sorting and
13:06
filing all those public records and
13:08
foyers into a cogent and workable
13:11
product
13:12
and recently sharing it to interested
13:14
readers through your informative Yarnell
13:16
fire Revelations website
13:18
I consider you Joy exceptionally
13:21
intelligent and hard work and woman you
13:24
worked on my 0.6 acre property
13:26
performing firewise tasks such as rake
13:29
and pine needles hand cutting the
13:31
Chaparral brush shoots with Nippers and
13:33
then piling them to cut brush into burn
13:35
piles I plan on retaining your services
13:38
on a regular basis for this in over the
13:40
years I've seen many examples of your
13:42
various talents I'm duly impressed by
13:45
your strong commitment to my family
13:47
to your family friends loved ones and
13:50
even complete strangers I am impressed
13:53
by your diligence honesty intuition and
13:57
strong work ethic I would ardently
13:59
recommend you to anyone interested in
14:01
getting their private property fire
14:03
waste or any project any project they
14:06
retain you for your current and future
14:08
customers will be seeking your
14:10
experience knowledgeable talents with
14:13
your record and achievements that I have
14:15
observed you have faced in projects that
14:17
you take on you have been able to
14:19
successfully complete multiple
14:21
challenging tasks with favorable results
14:23
and reasonable mutually agreed upon time
14:26
frame at times when required you're very
14:29
confident and respectfully and tactfully
14:31
dealing with a challenging and sometimes
14:33
difficult issues with others even though
14:35
you try to avoid dealing with the public
14:37
speaking I have noticed that you have
14:39
people skills and you rise to the
14:41
occasion when necessary to do so
14:43
I have also noticed that you're both
14:45
able to promote and support the desired
14:48
outcome yet willingfully to skillfully
14:50
compromise in order to achieve a desired
14:53
result
14:54
Joy is both a good communicator and a
14:57
good listener in conclusion I would
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recommend taking the
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uh I'm sorry two courses first the two s
15:07
215 and then the home ignition Zone
15:11
assessing Wildfire hazards I would like
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to restate my strong recommendation to
15:16
retain Joy clear for just about any of
15:18
your needs for that he's so it might uh
15:21
Fred shuffler is one of the longest
15:23
running
15:25
super I say bosses he likes to say
15:27
superintendent so he's one of the
15:28
longest running bosses ending the united
15:30
in the United States for service history
15:33
when he retired
15:35
so get that kind of recommendation
15:37
letter was really important he was a
15:39
pace and Hot Shot fire management
15:41
special and he has Superior skills and
15:45
and daring and pushing things to uh
15:48
talking truth to power and that's
15:50
important and so I want you guys to know
15:53
that
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the first thing I did it was in uh 2018
15:57
I did the public information officer
16:00
social media course and I did not know
16:03
when I was in that course that my own
16:05
teachers my instructors they were on the
16:08
Yarnell fire all three of them didn't
16:11
know when I was in that class didn't
16:13
know that the very lady that was sitting
16:15
next to me also was on the fire and the
16:18
guy next to me Bart
16:20
who I try to get help on Donna Gordon
16:23
recently he too was on the rnl fire in
16:27
some capacity with Eric Tarr so
16:31
it was really hard I didn't know now I
16:33
know but looking back I didn't know and
16:36
so I you can see on my blog I give you
16:39
proof of my Social Security whole
16:41
profile that I am a housewife hiker I
16:43
really have zero interest to money so
16:46
for those lies I heard over time that
16:48
I'm a clout Chaser or I want to work
16:50
myself up the whatever yeah whatever is
16:54
right because I mean it as a housewife
16:56
to make sure the truth comes out and
16:59
that's where we need to focus on I did
17:02
my FEMA Emergency Management Institute
17:05
of uh which is you're required of the
17:10
is-00800 dot C and then I also did the
17:17
is-00100 that dot C which is
17:20
Introduction to the incident command
17:22
system which is so important to learn
17:24
and it kind of mimics the framework of
17:27
the military so they can use it national
17:30
internationally and I I get that system
17:33
and then I did the
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is-00029 public information officer
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awareness I also did the
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is-00042 social media and Emergency
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Management
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I also did the social media March 10th
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11th 2018 with
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Petit which is interesting but it was on
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your Navajo fire 2013 did not know that
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my instructor again was on Yarnell until
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I looked at her crew time reports and
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resource orders and so that's
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interesting that they kept some of her
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data in permanent records but we were
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missing so many crucial documents funny
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right so then we go in in March 2018 I
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was attending the academy and uh at
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Embry Riddle and one of the people there
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asked me if you can name that 10 and 18
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fire orders on the spot I'm gonna give
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you this coin like I said earlier I
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didn't want to do it I I knew it
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fluently but I didn't want to give it
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and it's because of the Bob Powers and
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the French vasque media I debated over
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time do anyone want to be known for you
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know knowing them
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but yeah there is complete Lessons
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Learned based on truth of what happened
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not someone's Story by doing that so I
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did I told him I got my coin yeah from
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the Arizona wildfire Incident Management
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Academy I got that coin and I deserved
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it and earned it you know after looking
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at uh those 10 and 18 I had to memorize
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so I have a good memory
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so then I went ahead and I became part
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of the Comet program which is ucar and I
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oh I did a completed course on fire
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behavior and then I went into fireline
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Mobile technology but yeah interesting
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when I Aaron Seifert March of 2019 uh
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when he was my instructor
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what's interesting about that factor is
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well at that time we had uh Dirk Foreman
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come in and he said he's giving the guy
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a coin I said oh I I thought the coin
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was for when you knew the 1018 and he
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pulled out his irpg and he said well you
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don't need to memorize them you gotta
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all here in your irpg just pulled out
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and there you go and I thought well
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that's not good to tell students you
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know like I'm a student of fire I'd be
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like hey I encourage you to go learn it
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you know memorize it feel it Noah even
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though if you're on the fire line it's
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more politics than than it is really
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known the 10 and 18 right nowadays
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depends on what region you're in and so
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on the uh March 2019 I became certified
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as your firefighter training for and
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also into intro fire behavior in human
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factors I became a wildland firefighter
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foundation and certif certification only
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so then I went to Sacramento mountains
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Wildfire Academy in Cloudcroft New
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Mexico
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and I at first I was getting ready I had
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some people that were gonna go be on the
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Weaver mountains because they had a
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staff ride going to happen that was more
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important to me but when Eric and them
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reached me and they said yeah you're
20:38
more than welcome I was like yeah I'd
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rather go to that do that real quick and
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so I went to the Sacramento mountains
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Wildfire Academy in New Mexico and I got
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trained in the fire operations in the
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Wildland Urban interface your s215 I
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went ahead and did that and then I was
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like get more into 2018 2019 2020 and
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and then I paused because of the
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covid-19 face I was a part of the
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International Association of Wildland
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Fire iewf
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and I awf actually
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I'm sorry I'm thinking of the Fire
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Chiefs
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um iawf I am still currently a um member
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not a lifetime member but 2018 through
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currently I am a member I'm thinking of
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the fire chief on one that one I paused
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during the kova 19 and I am a proud
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member uh Michael Robinson has done an
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uh excellent job in that so sorry for
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the mistake there but then as we go
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through
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and the discussions uh of my back
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history on what I began getting involved
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with the United States U.S HotShots
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Association which you don't have to be a
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hot shot to be a part of them and it's
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really something I encourage every
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person to learn about their system and
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become a member today and I still am a
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member I'm a lifetime member of the US
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U.S HotShots and I I strongly support
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them and I've enjoyed every uh yeah
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every conference I've been with them I
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skipped a few either for health or some
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matter but overall I've been over to
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those and so then we get to the part of
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the California interagency Wildland fire
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risk management conference I have to
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explain to you guys that in 2018
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they had a pause through the coveted
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phase and they came back this year when
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I went back this year like I told you in
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a previous recording uh that one needs
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some more discussion I at this point at
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the way I was treated I would not return
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back to that conference because and it
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was one I really liked looking forward
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to love the freaking uh what do you call
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that um I can't think of their name but
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it's a place where you go get fish
23:05
during our lunch breaks great uh again
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something but Palmas I can't remember
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but definitely was a highlight is that
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seafood places over there so then as you
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go on and you start to learn and 2019
23:23
was an exciting year I learned that
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somebody that was really tied to Amanda
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being a marsh she's uh this guy goes and
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has a contest at the Arizona uh the the
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um American meteorology Society I was at
23:37
the conference and a guy had a Kestrel
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5500 and all you do is put your name in
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there and then on January 15 2019 at 12
23:46
44 PM I became the proud owner they
23:49
picked my name and I was like when I put
23:52
that in their raffle I was like oh yeah
23:54
they're not gonna pick my name because
23:55
it's the tie to Amanda I was like No And
23:58
I got the fire weather version is that
24:00
cool I got that that was like nice so
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that is a neat little you know going
24:07
back and uh shout out to Kestrel because
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I had Kestrel the day of the Yarnell
24:11
fire 2013. I just had the basic one so
24:14
to have the fire weather one it
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