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Video 62:

pay attention,

higher "good" authorities

to the THUMBS DOWN button

and WHO clicked it...

it may matter...

Look at their text/emails/etc.-

might show you something


you are going to see

most likely

that the same folks

keep placing

negativity my way, why?


Let me share my life story as I do give that respect for others...

I just do not get it back ???

I give you

DOCUMENTS

to

LEAD TO A CONCLUSION

while they give you

falsehoods - projections.

They feel if they tell

25,000 folks

then they built an audience---

I do not need an audience-

I follow God's lead...

Amen.


Transcript

0:00

good morning it's September 10 2023. I'm

0:03

glad to get more clarity on the issue

0:05

this week of the comment that's made on

0:08

social media by Granite Mountain Hotshot

0:10

loved one and her uh being an advocate

0:13

and as well as the parent showing a

0:15

concern of when their children are aging

0:20

and growing up they feel like what can

0:23

they do you know because of all the

0:26

public comments that are made on

0:29

reference to the Grand amount Hot Shots

0:31

and when I read the origin I was so

0:35

relieved it wasn't anything to do with

0:37

us but we've done tougher topics so when

0:40

I read the origin of what was the

0:42

concern those are still the comments

0:45

that were left can lead to documentation

0:48

to prove those comments so those might

0:51

seem insensitive but those are true isms

0:54

and we need to have those family

0:57

advocates that were signed enrolled for

0:59

the running around Hot Shots back in the

1:01

day we maybe need to bring those people

1:03

back in to help these families not feel

1:06

so alone on the topic because it is

1:09

something that in the 1930s the tragedy

1:12

of fires back then are still being

1:14

talked about now so this is going to be

1:16

a generational after generational

1:18

discussion so let's do it right now in

1:21

the healthy minded so if you

1:26

cannot read it triggers you'd don't go

1:30

there but if you are wanting to learn

1:32

and get some information on why things

1:36

led to something to lead to a conclusion

1:38

versus the glaze narratives that the

1:40

sets are in adash in the

1:44

media possibly have done to us over time

1:47

and I could say that because I am the

1:49

eyewitness who was on the Weaver Mounds

1:51

with the Granite Mountain HotShots on

1:53

June 30th 2013 and I saw what I saw and

1:57

I have now I am the most documented

2:00

person in the world when it comes to

2:03

Yarnell hillfire 2013. so when I'm

2:06

speaking or I'm writing I'm doing things

2:09

with documented facts to lead to

2:12

conclusions because this is internal

2:14

small town

2:17

a city

2:18

County

2:20

state federal and so much more I I feel

2:25

for the people who are in the backyard

2:27

as steinbrinks or Willis at one point

2:29

who have come to me and talked to their

2:32

discussions of how the Granite Mountain

2:34

HotShots was made or how the awuma was

2:37

created and and learning the rhythm of

2:41

how the origin is is so important to

2:43

learn to lead up to what happened on

2:45

June 30th 2013. so I hope that people

2:50

who are of higher authority can be there

2:52

for those grand amount Hotshot loved

2:54

ones who are dealing with a trigger

2:56

right now of people who either talk

2:58

about the 10 fire standard fire 10

3:02

standard firefighting orders or the 18

3:04

watches or stay in the black or they

3:06

were in the black those kind of things

3:08

are real stories real discussions and

3:11

our freedom of speech should be allowed

3:13

to do that these people need to learn

3:16

in fact if you can handle it please go

3:20

somewhere else and stop reading it and

3:22

stop spewing and it is spewing because

3:25

when you put that comment out there to

3:27

the world and you look at the comments

3:29

that are being like Oh my who would do

3:31

that give me their names I crack heads

3:33

for a living like that's the kind of

3:36

reaction you're getting so instead of

3:37

taking debt to your public platform take

3:41

it to a family Advocate from the state

3:43

forestry dffm who the original sassar

3:48

had assigned family advocates go back to

3:50

those people those roles or if you are

3:53

not comfortable with those people find

3:55

some new Outlets because those are the

3:58

people you need to go give that to not

3:59

to the public to the world because all

4:01

you're doing is creating people to a

4:03

feedback of an audience and this doesn't

4:06

need an audience I've never in all my

4:09

platforms of writing the journal

4:12

I'm not creating an audience if you

4:14

could tell by the way I Journal if I was

4:15

training in the audience I wouldn't be

4:18

Journal like that you understand I was

4:20

told in 2018 I had a gold mine I have

4:23

Smoking Gun I I don't want to put it out

4:26

it's not my role to put it out I have

4:29

tried political publicist lawyers

4:31

different different Avenues I know media

4:35

is like the last place I'd even want to

4:37

touch my stuff after all the Terrible

4:39

Things I've seen uh and I'm telling you

4:43

terrible because if you go back and I

4:45

talk to one person who is still affected

4:48

from dude fire that he cannot even begin

4:50

to process Yarnell Hailfire so those are

4:53

kind of I I hear the heaviness behind

4:56

the chat behind back channel from these

4:58

firefighters from Over the decades that

5:00

been on other fires in this fire and so

5:03

I'm like the sponge to all these boots

5:05

on the grounds the air people the

5:07

dispatchers and stuff so I when people

5:10

are like oh how could she do that I'm

5:13

the sponge to so much heavy topics

5:16

behind the scenes that I'm trying to

5:18

take that data and trying to figure a

5:20

way to get it out and it's not easy when

5:23

I got in public records I guarantee you

5:24

I've almost lost my life reading some of

5:27

these documents so I want you guys to

5:29

know uh Yarnell Hill fire 2013 no matter

5:33

how they did their glaze and I and if

5:37

for their paid for move pay for made for

5:39

profit books movies

5:41

any person that's doing any type of

5:43

relations towards gathering in funds to

5:48

help other Wildland firefighters God

5:50

bless that's your journey however I

5:53

would hope you would include all family

5:55

members of the grand amount HotShots

5:57

because I have heard from some family

6:00

members that they've never been included

6:02

and all that and yet you're speaking on

6:05

their child so that's so you might think

6:08

you're representing all of them then you

6:10

need to also include the family numbers

6:12

that is one topic I can tell you I've

6:15

heard too many times over the past

6:17

decade and it's heart-wrenching to hear

6:19

all these different stories and stuff so

6:22

2023 I am totally on pause from all the

6:25

fire stuff but this came in this week

6:26

about uh I read the origin of the

6:29

comment and I support and I stand firm

6:31

with that comment because it does have

6:33

have

6:34

uh fluidity and it can be backed up with

6:38

documents to those comments so now we

6:41

need to figure a way to

6:43

um help those family members so they

6:45

don't have to use social media platforms

6:47

to um create an audience uh for their

6:50

pain that that's sad you know so if we

6:53

can get some people from dffm State

6:56

forestry

6:58

um State Forestry at the time of 2013

7:00

and then they merged into dffm

7:03

Department of Forestry and Forest

7:05

management and so if we can get some of

7:07

those people to come in and help those

7:09

people again that'd be great I know May

7:11

19 2022 I gave information to dffm and I

7:16

have no documentation that they followed

7:18

through and telling those family members

7:21

what I know I did give that to them so

7:23

hopefully you family members are privy

7:25

to the information that I have because I

7:27

did give it to dffm and actually the

7:30

origin of the public record was from

7:32

dffm and so I hope they have no notified

7:35

you because May 19 2022 is when I sat on

7:39

and discussed that with them and so if

7:41

you are not privy to that I am

7:43

definitely not of the good health

7:46

um

7:47

yeah I couldn't do anything right now

7:49

I'm trying to rebuild uh my health

7:52

status and so 2023 2023 is off and I

7:57

will reevaluate in 2024 but it's like

7:59

getting close to 2024 and I'm telling

8:01

you right now

8:02

um yeah I'd take a miracle and so that's

8:06

one of the things I will tell you this

8:07

in the recent month when I saw a video

8:09

being taken down and listened to the uh

8:13

like it was a good mental health video

8:15

and so it was made with heart and when

8:18

that was taken down I want that person

8:20

to know who felt the urge to immediately

8:23

get removed

8:25

any person that was a contributing

8:28

factor to make that happen God's

8:30

watching that was totally wrong to be

8:33

doing if you had an issue and say hey I

8:36

have this this uh wrong with that can

8:39

you please help me fix that or don't go

8:42

to it you know those are the things you

8:44

have to give people the freedom of

8:46

speech there's too much suppression

8:48

happening when it comes to Yarnell fire

8:51

2013 that I have become the big big big

8:54

sponge of data on the back Channel and

8:57

because people feel at ease to tell me

8:59

their stuff and some not so Yeti some

9:01

have been very intimidated or they're

9:03

like how did you know how did you how

9:06

did you get that information and and

9:08

I'll tell you one time

9:10

a cycle to a Prescott leader and he's

9:12

like you couldn't have known that we

9:14

were all supposed to die with that

9:15

information so let me tell you uh when I

9:18

say I know things and I know more than I

9:20

speak that will always be because it's

9:22

not my role to give it out you

9:24

understand that is the people who did it

9:27

the first-hand people to talk not mine I

9:30

I have it and it's in my head and it's

9:32

in my documents but that's not my role

9:34

do I feel that there are so many

9:36

entities that could be doing something

9:37

and doing the difficult right thing

9:39

right now sure but how can they if we

9:41

have social media comments on simple

9:44

comments about they should have been in

9:47

black or they were in the black and

9:49

they're creating an audience of Discord

9:52

and it is a Discord when you see the

9:54

comments and people like I remember I

9:57

have a comment wall thread back in the

9:59

day when I was on that Social Media

10:01

stuff and one says well give me their

10:04

names I care I crack heads for a living

10:06

I'm like wow see what you're creating

10:09

that kind of about atmosphere That's not

10:11

healthy so that's why saying dffm maybe

10:13

can come in and help these people

10:15

because the platform right now that's

10:17

being done that creates all kinds of

10:20

division too like and when I'm here for

10:22

Unity I'm here for peace and I'm here

10:24

for love and some people like oh you're

10:26

not here for peace because you wouldn't

10:27

be keep doing this and then I've heard

10:29

over the time that oh you must be

10:31

obsessed with this no until the document

10:34

of Truth gets to the front I I will keep

10:37

at it I mean that's just the bottom line

10:38

I might have to pause at times because

10:40

of my health this has really affected my

10:42

health and I and you can talk to locals

10:46

even you go drive into like a local

10:48

cashier or something and they and they

10:51

say oh hey uh yeah she's got issue she's

10:55

not feeling well they're like yeah she's

10:56

got issues no I've had these for since I

10:59

was 28 years old so I'm I'm gonna be I

11:02

was born 72 so I'm 51. and so yeah this

11:06

is not a and like this is a chronic

11:08

thing up and down up and down and so I

11:11

God bless and I I applaud and and I um

11:15

support anybody that goes on pause and

11:17

knowing me because yeah who wants to

11:19

hear that day in and down I am having a

11:20

good day or I'm you know so I'm all for

11:23

people living their own life and that's

11:25

what the whole thing is everybody when I

11:27

met my husband back in the 80s and we

11:29

started dating 91 and we got married in

11:31

93. we always gave each other

11:34

individualism and and as a couple we

11:38

were we were both individuals and then

11:40

we're a couple and and let me explain

11:42

that to you that over the decades uh we

11:45

have we don't control one another we let

11:49

God handle Our Lives individually and

11:53

let God handle Our Lives as a couple and

11:56

so those are the things that I try to

11:58

explain to people because they were like

12:00

well uh like John McLean when he was

12:02

telling a smokejumper at that conference

12:05

um oh yeah the hikers you know blah blah

12:08

blah and insinuating stuff that had

12:10

nothing to do with the Arnel Hill fire

12:11

and I was like what's he doing like

12:14

that's a waste of energy and time and

12:16

and it's a Discord why are we creating

12:18

division or separating us we're

12:21

important if you don't like it or not

12:24

we're important because we were on the

12:26

Weaver mountains with the Granite

12:28

Mountain HotShots and we're alive and so

12:30

if you don't like it or not and you can

12:32

just cool you could discount it and

12:34

discredit it all you want you could talk

12:36

all day and gossip all day and and you

12:38

can have Believers and followers I have

12:41

God and that's all that matters you

12:43

understand that so when you guys think

12:45

you're getting somewhere I remember in

12:47

2021 after I came back from a Summer

12:52

Event

12:53

I was like wow I can't believe that just

12:56

happened to my life as I was confused by

12:58

the matter and I just remember like

13:00

telling two people and they're like oh

13:02

yeah just you know and they didn't

13:03

really want to discuss it with me and I

13:05

really needed that discussion at that

13:07

time and I was really discounted on that

13:09

but I really believed that happened for

13:13

its reasons and and I have grown so much

13:17

from that moment it's really nice but

13:20

what I did learn is the other person did

13:23

not see it the same way and they I

13:25

almost felt like I was put in the same

13:27

boat that a lady named Abby was put

13:31

placed in as far as what people would

13:33

gossip about her and I thought wow I'm

13:36

in that boat that someone's talking

13:39

about

13:40

Abby they're talking about me that way

13:42

and I'm like wow it doesn't even match

13:44

up you know what I'm saying inside's

13:47

like well this is crazy then I'm seeing

13:48

this and and uh so I was like it was a

13:51

hard journey that 2021 2022 but at the

13:54

same time I was having the Yavapai

13:56

County Sheriff's Office countering a

13:58

criminal no trespassing sign and trying

14:00

to build a case against me it was so

14:02

bogus and I was like what what's going

14:04

on there's so many and then they have uh

14:06

you look at the claim for the Helms and

14:09

so many of the locals and the family

14:11

members and you see how I've been

14:13

treated by them it's like it blows my

14:15

mind because I'm doing exactly what

14:17

their claims say in in the lawsuit

14:19

claims I'm getting those documents to

14:22

lead to a conclusion and that's exactly

14:25

what they wanted in the beginning so

14:27

something shifted over time

14:29

and it really goes back to that Todd

14:31

Abel when he when he went

14:36

um and and chose to disregard the no

14:39

trespassing signs for whatever reasons

14:41

he has and it was at the county meeting

14:43

it was a community meeting at the church

14:46

over at the Presbyterian church and I I

14:50

know the Watsons for a long time from

14:52

being the desert Walker and when I saw

14:54

her raise her hand and she's like well I

14:57

just want some you know or no

14:58

trespassing signs and stuff and then and

15:02

they said we'll find some people to help

15:03

I raised our hands for me and sunny and

15:06

I said we'll help and it was that moment

15:09

that made it stronger for all of us

15:10

because when I saw that man and he told

15:13

us I was like yeah

15:16

so from that is our origin it had Todd

15:19

Abel uh done his task and he failed to

15:23

do his task is why we had

15:26

created this atmosphere of we need to

15:29

gather data and I had Flyers everywhere

15:32

in the beginning I was making sure I

15:34

helped anybody and everybody and gather

15:37

data gathered data and and it kind of

15:40

looked like I was writing a book or a

15:42

movie the way I was doing it too because

15:43

I'm like hey you know do you have this

15:45

do you have I was gathering as much data

15:48

as possible you talk about public

15:50

information officer I Was Your top-notch

15:52

Girl because I was learning more than

15:54

any of them can possibly I was on

15:56

Craigslist social medias I was I was

15:59

gathering data from all different

16:00

helping people clean their properties

16:02

taking the debris off fixing water lines

16:05

with them I mean I was really in the

16:08

dirt helping and and long hours and it

16:12

was uh like I look back and I'm like wow

16:15

I can't even believe I did all that hard

16:16

work on top of hiking all these

16:19

investigators and media and authors and

16:23

journalists and all all of this same

16:26

time with my health issues like that was

16:29

crazy when I looked back and so I just

16:31

want you guys to know that I'm never

16:33

doing a book I'm never doing anything

16:35

made for profit I'm never doing a movie

16:38

and it's if someone came and offered a

16:41

whole bunch of money I say give it to

16:43

those children

16:45

instantly say screw the movie give that

16:48

money to the children you understand

16:50

that I would say screw that money give

16:52

them money to the families that's how I

16:55

would be that's that's just how I roll

16:57

and so anybody would want to tie his my

17:01

story my life story is a freaking movie

17:03

if you watch it and and during all this

17:06

health issues and and stuff and so you

17:09

know I'm just gonna tell you guys right

17:11

now uh I'm all for freedom of speech I

17:15

am very empathetic person to a degree

17:19

because I feel like some people try to

17:21

control a narrative or control a

17:24

situation or just control and and that I

17:27

don't go for at all I think that that

17:30

control mechanism needs to stop and and

17:34

that's what I've seen for almost a

17:36

decade if someone didn't like some

17:39

doing whatever can immediately to do it

17:41

so when I I saw last November I remember

17:45

last November that Granite Mountain

17:46

Hotshot trade name and the name went up

17:49

in the air it was up to grab anybody

17:51

could have grabbed it I could have

17:53

grabbed it I didn't want it you

17:55

understand but when I was at um June

17:58

23rd to June 30th over at the Arizona

18:00

State archives Library I decided that

18:03

right then that

18:05

well I'm going to bring it up to my

18:09

contributing author let him grab it

18:12

and I did that because of the recent

18:14

stance that one was doing to this one

18:17

company that made t-shirts and he was

18:19

doing a 10th anniversary thing and

18:21

that's why my origin was like hey do you

18:24

want the trade name go for it here's the

18:26

tools and there you go and and then I

18:29

did that more so to protect ourselves

18:32

and our um blog too because if uh my

18:36

contributing author owns that name then

18:38

we have less chance of any issues on

18:40

that kind of stuff so there was all

18:42

kinds of factors that was running

18:43

through my head on if he was to get that

18:45

and so and then he could tie it to his

18:47

10 and 18 project on that Yarnell land

18:50

so there was uh those things so now that

18:53

all that's all done and everything I

18:55

just want to make sure I had got this

18:57

all off my chest so I can get on with my

18:59

week it's Sunday and I want to let it go

19:01

that was last week we got it all out we

19:04

got to see who the origin was it wasn't

19:06

us and we got to learn that in fact the

19:10

comment really didn't deserve of the

19:13

public platform that it did instead I

19:15

feel my humble opinion these people

19:16

should have family advocates again to

19:19

discuss this privately behind the scenes

19:21

for the them and their families because

19:24

for decades to come as it was stated in

19:27

two thousand uh 15 from the judge

19:31

Markham he said that this is going to be

19:34

something that will go on forever you

19:36

know you you can't tell someone that you

19:38

can't talk about this or that and that's

19:40

the bottom line and that is true and so

19:43

I I just hope that these people

19:44

understand I have seen minimal I did see

19:48

in the past week because I I keep up on

19:51

I get Google Alerts and analogs and

19:53

analytics and stuff on things and I did

19:56

see someone say something and I called

19:57

him out and then I reported it so that's

20:01

all if you find something that's

20:03

misinformation that can't be documented

20:06

that that can be documented with or

20:09

backed up then just report it so I have

20:13

so it's so funny I've had at times where

20:15

someone wanted to report me just to

20:17

report me but I have the documents so

20:19

God bless you guys you know like there's

20:22

not one thing if I put it out I'm gonna

20:24

be able to back it up that's the thing

20:26

and I don't really use social media for

20:28

those platforms I I use uh Twitter and

20:32

Instagram

20:33

for just communicating back Channel with

20:36

a few people and really that's about it

20:39

I was off Facebook as of last year

20:42

and then uh so yeah so I really don't

20:46

have anything I have uh Mr Chef has me

20:48

on some kind of Academia and research

20:51

gate those are all his situations and

20:53

his way of world uh not my thing but God

20:57

bless that's you know we want to educate

20:59

people hide skim some of the stuff it's

21:02

not my area you know

21:04

not paying attention to and so and

21:07

that's a key thing stop paying attention

21:09

to areas that are causing you to score

21:11

or or hurt or harm or a feeling of

21:15

negativity you know if uh goes somewhere

21:19

positive you know why stay in there and

21:21

and think of that so God bless you all I

21:24

just want to let you know that update

21:26

that I'm sorry that these family members

21:29

are having to it'll be continued thing I

21:32

know when I lost

21:33

um in my life and the amount of loss

21:36

I've had uh and I think that's another

21:38

thing people don't even realize we did

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lose 19 but if you could only see the

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funerals in the aftermath of how many we

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lost after this is a much bigger topic

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than just the 19 I guarantee you that

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because uh I've been to too many

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funerals so

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um and and horrific horrendous types of

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uh health issues and matters and so I

22:01

would hope at one point there would be a

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case study done

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um you know anywhere we can on air

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quality soil quality water quality on on

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some areas so and cables RX is a good

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example uh if the watersheds that were

22:19

done over there and also the Beaver

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Creek in 2013 over in Idaho so I could

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go on and on and on in a ramble but

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that's my ramble for today which is

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probably about 22 minutes long so I'm

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going to let you guys go and uh but that

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is my feedback from this past week of

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the social media thing and I hope you

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guys do take a healthier route instead

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of causing the division that can happen

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by making that public comment

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because I I remember the days where

22:48

someone wanted to crack my head because

22:50

of your common publicly so I'd

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appreciate you guys taking that time to

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do a healthier route and meet those

22:57

family advocates call dffm and have them

23:00

do something for you guys because that's

23:02

really their job to do that especially

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in the documents I own you could also

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have other entities involved too I'm

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backing that up financially for you guys

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because it is kind of a role that they

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should be continuously doing not just

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that media moment especially when the

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kids are at an age that you said so God

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bless and peace to everybody and much

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love

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