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2022. It is 257 PM. My name is Joy A Colora, COLLURA four
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eight zero five five nine. 1971. Hold on. I'm getting some messages before I get started
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here. It's telling me to create this, do this. So, I have a
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thing in front of my webcam. So, I I'm not here to do live. It's more for audio recording because my audio recording
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thing is not working in other areas. So, I'm trying to do this live here. Again, my name is Joy A COLLURA four eight
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zero five five9 19 seventy-one and appoint contact. If you have any questions to anything
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I'm about to put out there. But this is in relations to Yarnell Hill Fire 2thousand thirteen,
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2016 where I was the eyewitness on and where on the June 30th 19 men died and me and Sonny
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Gilligan survived on top of the Weaver Mountains and we were up there with them. So, when I go
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forward in this I want to discuss the situation yesterday. I had a new lieutenant call me. Uh his name
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is Lieutenant Pritchard out of Yavapai County Sheriff's Office and this is his recording. Like
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I said, I've been trying to get these uploaded today but it's not working so I'm doing a live to see hopefully it'll work.
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So, here we go. Lieutenant Pritchard at the Sheriff's Office. Oh, for the thing from the other day when we went up on Saturday? Yeah, am I
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speaking with you on? Yeah, this is. Okay. So, before I get into this letting you listen in
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on our conversation between him and myself. Uh on Saturday, going up to do my medical
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massage and we are going up the mountain. As we're going up, there's a black truck in front of us and it's going at a high
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speed and it finally reaches up to an SUV of Sheriff. Uh yeah, if I come to Sheriff's Office and so in doing that, they
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slowed down. Well, the sheriffs as they approached County have a like a speed thing since I thought your speed was thirty-five. The bike truck
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disappears. Now, we're behind the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office. Uh I mean, Sheriff vehicle SUV and right where the
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hardware store is we're in right where the between the
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Blue House that used to be the Blue House and the hardware. There's a road that goes up to the substation for your your
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nail for the Yavapai County Sheriff's Substation. Well, this SUV, the Yavapai County
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Sheriff's Office SUV was in the left lane and cut like swerved and we we had a pause and break
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to avoid an accident. Uh so, when they swerved from the left lane into the street. So, I
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addressed that in a few other incidents over the summer like
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my no know, trespassing sign and everything. So, this is what he's talking to in relations to and this was on the fifteenth of October at
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around nine something in the morning. So, alright. How was your weekend? Beautiful. Lot of
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healings. So when I'm talking about a lot of healings real quick on the the October 15th, there was a situation at the
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Prescott Gateway Mall where somebody was removed from the premises of a location due to a
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family member of one of the fallen. Uh it's a sensitivity thing. So, when I was talking
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to the security guard, I said this gentleman that's in there. My interest is if he comes out and he's willing to talk to me,
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please allow it. If he looks like he doesn't want any interest in me, I'll walk away. I says, man once-in-a-lifetime moment to have this opportunity
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to talk to this gentleman. Uh he was on the fire that I was on and I had some very tough questions and and I want to
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touch base and I got a lot of healing from that. So, I appreciate that person. Good.
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Go ahead. God, it was what you needed. This sounds like, huh? Yes.
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So I did some looking. I know who was on down there in Yarnell and what they were
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dealing with. Okay. Um and I have made the appropriate call. It was actually one of our
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deputies who's in training. Okay. Uh and so I was able to speak with her training officer. Um and advised them of
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the complaint and the observations. Um so that we can be sure to address being better
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aware of the surroundings and planning terms ahead and things like that. So then we don't
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cause people an unnecessary breaking or anything like that. Okay. Yeah it did it look it just kind of looked like
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somebody that was new too. Like if you're watching it look like like not familiar kind of
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familiar but not familiar. Oh there I just missed my turn kind of thing. You know. Right right and I I do believe that's
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probably what it was. I didn't speak directly to her because I I took it up with her direct supervisor and asked them to do
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that. Yeah. Um so I I do want you I wanted to make sure that
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you knew. Okay. That I did take take your your email
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at at base value and look into it a little bit. Yeah. Um he he indicated he didn't remember
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anything like that happening but he would he would talk to her and make sure that we're
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we're we're checking our surroundings and making sure, you know, things are done safely and. Especially right in
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that streets, you know. So, my giggle is not really a giggle. It's just, is it, I'm really a
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traumatized from August 26th and so, my cackle was could be taken as inappropriate but at
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the same time, I'm really traumatic and dramatically affected because I knew both sides. So, Donna was one of my
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truth tellers on the Arnell Fire 2013 and the kid that hit him is grown up. He's in his
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30s. Uh the deputy that hit him, hit her, sorry. Uh it it I've seen him grow up, love his
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family, and so this is terrific, horrific event for me to have to go through and piece
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it together and when I say piece together, you'll hear as like this live recording goes
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Well, that that's got a lot of attention. Yeah. Yeah. So, we got. Yeah. Yeah. Uh The other,
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I got another Email from you at the beginning of October, reference your trespassing
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signs. Yeah, great. And I spoke with Lieutenant Winfrey because
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I haven't been here for these these matters. So, I wanted to give some background on it. Um
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I spoke with him and he indicated to me that he told you you could you could get those from Evidence. Nope.
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Never. So, I'm pausing here because we're on live and I want to explain to you
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Lieutenant Winfrey. Um I'm sorry. Uh there must be some miscommunication, mislead, distractions, or whatever. there has never been a time and
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you're going to see as I show the evidence today live that this is the truth. That that
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Lieutenant Winfrey I hope you're going to hear this Lieutenant Pritchard say to me in a not so much immediate
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situation but he'll get back to me But I'm going to put it out here. So, there's a documentation. I was told that
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it was being used in this. I have the recording and it's actually on YouTube. Um that Winfrey stated it's being used
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to do build a case Uh again me for criminal trespassing and
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they have up to a year to hold it and that was last June. And that's his exact verbs in the
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in the actual recording is live public. So, that would be inaccurate what he stated.
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Okay. Alright. Well, if that's if that's the case, then I do need to do just a little bit more digging and I'll have to
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get back to you on that because I have I have no desire to prolong this any longer but I
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don't want to step on anyone else's toes if there's information that I don't have. Yeah. So, that's I can send the
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link to you where it's all the documentations there where he states that the recording and
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all that stuff. I don't think that's necessary right now. I think with what I need to, the
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questions I need to ask and and and look into this a bit more. Yeah, just go back and tell him it was in September of last
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year. Uh he said that Sergeant Ashby was building a criminal case against me and said they
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had up to a year to hold that in evidence and then back in
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June, I communicated with Morgan and she said you have to go through the what do you call
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that system? Cuz she's records. You know, so. so yeah and
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that's I was prepared to go one way with that and since you're giving me other information I do feel like it's prudent for
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me to to kind of iron some of those details out. So we'll have to follow up on that.
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That's fine issue again here in the near future. Okay? Yeah. Yeah there's been no notification. Actually I've in
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all my public records it all shows you know what's the ETA on. We're getting my signs
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back. It's been over a year. So and then I see. Yeah and I have. I I would like to get
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this result because I don't have any desire to to if I need to figure out where things are at. I I just have a few
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questions given what you just told me. Um so, I will do that and I'll get back with you. Um
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I don't know if it'll be immediately. This one. But I will get back with you with you
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soon, okay? Yeah, it's great. Yeah, but you do a day. You
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too. Thank you. Bye bye. So okay so ehm on the YouTube I I
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said all this but it got blotched glitched and everything so I'm going to have to repeat it. So I'm setting you up for the next audio
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recording. Next audio recording is last night. Uh it's kind of odd but in the recent times
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we've had town hall meetings. So in these town hall meetings our division one Harry Oberg
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comes with his assistant and some people from county maybe developer development services
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or etcetera. And then you have a Pike County Sheriff's Office. I had zero intentions of going
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point it was if one of the landowners in Uranel was gone but I was just going to go out
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and desert walk. I was getting dropped off towards the end of Gold Dollar to go do clean up
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the cemetery which is what I've been doing to some of my people who have passed on cleaning up
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the area over there and in that I saw a vehicle so I had him pull over and I went in to see
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what kind of new faces. Do we have new faces to town? Do we have old faces? Say hello. I
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was totally grunge. Did not anticipate to go Um I had a heart thing yesterday morning.
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Uh so I was really full of fluid retention. Uh not really up for company. Sat in the
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back. Good LCS. Uh so I can you know have a way to go to the bathroom but also have a direct
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way to get out as well. Uh and and positioning we had Lieutenant Pritchard and
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Sergeant Ashby in the center of the room back of the room and maybe a four or five people in between and it was really nice
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to see some of you guys old faces and new faces and stuff like that. Appreciate the
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prayers and and we'll go forward from there but then when I play this, I want to set it up that this is a concerned citizen that he has stated
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about the OHV. You'll hear firsthand and then reason why I make my statements because I
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had no intention to talk at all yesterday. Uh I especially after my heart thing yesterday where I am health wise and I
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don't need any added anxiety or you know, nothing, anything. But when I heard that
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Lieutenant Pritchard State that he he worked, I'm here for the people you gotta help us for us
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to help you and then I was that triggered me because I'm like, if you're here to help me and
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then, when the conserved citizen that you're going to be about to hear from, when he said something and then
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Sergeant Ashby says, I'll take care of the matter. That's when I made the comment saying, oh like the nineteen? You know,
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like that's where this goes. So, it's a four minute and 39 seconds situation of a hour and
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a half, 530 to 7 o'clock, town meeting, and Congress, Arizona off of Ghosttown Road at the
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Grace Bible but I don't know if it's Grace Bible anymore because I'm out of the loop and I'll get back in the loop on this town. It's been a while
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though because I went to investigation to do the investigation academy, Wildland Fire credentials and stuff like
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that. So, I really haven't been tied into who's who except for RR. So, here we go. Last couple
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of weeks, 300 more reports of her. Not that I'm aware of. Did did your neighbor call us all?
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No, they didn't. Oh. Oh. And record that.
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This is the so those are some of the indicators that we need to know about, okay? Now, there's a lot of these
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different things. Mailboxes pushed over, things like this that are, that are, that are
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absolutely a pain, right? But their indicators to us, when we see clusters, right? So then I
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can say, hey, this is happening in this area. We need to be here between these hours more often and you're not responding
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to emergencies when you're not responding to calls for service. Let's be in those community and engage with the neighbors and look at. I really don't think I would even spoke
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up publicly if Sergeant Ashby wasn't there. It's just a long history since you know, the Yarnah Hill fire and her being
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only a few bodies away from me and all of the things I've seen behind the scenes in public
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records on the body cams. So, if you have a Pike County Sheriff's Office body cam s and so, yeah, I think that's what
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set the stage of me making my comment publicly but I just want to make sure you understand he's right here
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saying like we want to help you but you guys can help us to help you. So, here we go. Who's walking around in, right?
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Things like that. So, that. Oh and also, I want to make a notation that if I don't know
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if you guys can hear these recordings or if you can just only hear me. So, I'm hoping that when I'm playing these
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recordings that you can actually hear because it's on my PC and I don't know. I've never done a live before. That's what I'm talking about.
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We we need to know those things and I know it's a pain that noone wants but you know, I hear a lot of times that they don't want to bother us. the
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son of father, we need to know these things so that we can keep you. We can keep your community safe and clean,
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right? Yes. Okay and this is what I was saying on YouTube and I got chopped and glitched and everything is that you want to keep our community safe
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and clean. I am the desert walker going back here many decades. Uh walk the desert, walk the highway, some of the
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dangerous areas to walk is the Highway eighty-nine. Now, because what happened with Donna Gordon but when you're
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going down Highway eighty-nine, I've seen a lot of biohazards, needles, and and my concern is
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and I've addressed it to Adot. Yup, I county Sheriff s, County, any place that I can. I've explained, if you give me
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the biohazards and give me a process, I'll do the work because I'm out there anyways. So, it's not like you have a
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lack of resource. I'm willing. I'll pick up the needles and you gave me a box where you want to put in and I'll do it
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but none of them will take accountability, liability, or anything but they'll go ahead as you hear in this meeting
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last night. They'll go ahead and mow the side of Highway eighty-nine, correct right? But what does that do? All those
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needles get. That are open. They're not closed needles. They're tossed out from a vehicle or tossed out from
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somebody but they're on the side of the highway. So now you not only have a needle but now you have broken needles for
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it's not really good for our wildlife. Absolutely not good for even human beings. But that's what we're up against. Nobody wants to help me there.
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And you want to keep this place safe? Then let's start there too. Um because we all live in Yamaha County because it's
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awesome. Yes. Right? So, help us keep it that way. And let's
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engage and talk about these things. I see you in the backseat. They went over OHP
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out in the desert. Quads on the black top have to be
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registered, insured, and licensed placed in. Yes, sir. Do you know how many times I've
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called you guys? Because they're driving around town crazy. I'm the black cop
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illegally and you know what I get for your dispatch? two
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things. Uh we're too busy they didn't see it. So, we can't
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respond. I go, well, I got videotape of it. Click.
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Right? So when are you going to train your dispatchers to take a report? That's why there's
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not a lot of reports on there. Is because they kicked us aside. They say oh sorry we're
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in the we're not going to respond to that because we're too busy. Or they didn't see it. Amen. I hear that. I
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learned. They will see them and person just to come. Take off of the dirt. And I'm sure if
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you have a sometimes but I don't want to be annoyed. They have to be registered and
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licensed, right? Correct. Then why aren't the why aren't the sheriffs, the the deputies
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pulling them over when they see em because I I actually was at the dollar store one day. A guy pulled in with a quad. There
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was a deputy parked. Two of them over in the turnaround there. I told them this quad is
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not licensed. They're not. They never went over there. They just drove off. One went north,
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one went south. never did anything about it. I will adjust that. How about? How
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about nineteen men dying and I tell YCSO I have the evidence that the chain of evidence
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breaks right with YCSO. It I have to teach you guys court. How about that one? And Ashby
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she has her ears in with a residential person. You can't go through an easement. Lock the gate. Yeah let's talk
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about. So let me go on the background of that part since we're here live. So Ashby, so we have a problem land up there
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that's other people have into a problem. It was a purchase, a beautiful purchase. It was to
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help family members with the Grand Among Hotshots. It was to help disabled veterans and and
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and the sense of this like it was to create an atmosphere for
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people who couldn't are unable to do the arduous hive. And it was supposed to be worked in
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with the state of Arizona. But other people got in and made a mess of it before it could even
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be into communication stages. It became a drama rumor and I really was targeted heavily
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through this and some people that were there locally were saying on a high government level and I didn't believe
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them. I really didn't and I pulled the records and they were right and I have a post on my blog about that. It's very
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very sad that I'm a target and I live in congress and yet that was hard thing for me to
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swallow because some of those people I've known for decades and and I it's still a thing I had to let go, let god.
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However, it's a it's a sting that hurts extremely and so in that this we're talking about
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here is the Helm Gate after the Yarnell Hill Fire was placed up
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to help kind of you know so people wouldn't go all the way back there. It was more of a controlled atmosphere With a no
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trespassing signs and stuff like that. So but it was on not their property at all. So then
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when the new people bought it it became a civil matter and all the signs that I had put in the Eastman to areas to kind of
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identify boundaries as I am the surveillance and no trespassing team for that land and when I
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was trying to do that, I was told that the certain spots was their corners and I was in one
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of the corners that ended up being identified later through a surveyor that that was kind
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of a squirrelly corner that did not belong to the new landowner. So, in that, we
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discovered more identification and boundaries need to be set. Meanwhile, a moment while we're
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gone, the gate was removed and moved closer and taken out completely and put on the
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neighboring land if his property, a new gate was made, a new kind of fencing was made
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to kind of create new back property. So, it wasn't made in the forefront just in the back
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part and one of our contractors stated that the one person that
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lives in that residential area came up at night when he was so proud to show his work off to his wife and when he that
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happened, the guy that has a grim, a column super he's known as Super Blah but I call him
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puff puff because he gets this tone about him. He huffs and puffs and you can see it on the body cam of YouTube and stuff
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and it's just sometimes ridiculous. So, anyways, with him, he states to our
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contractor, the land owner's contractors and tells him, oh
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well, if they have anybody out here, I could shut this gate and lock it and then call the
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sheriffs and I have the permission of the YCSO to do that. Well, we try to make that
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address to the YCSO. Well, it like, no, no, no big deal.
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Like, it's not an issue. That's kidnapping. let's go on. That's what I was talking about when we're doing this in our play
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now. So but I just want to kind of give you a little bit of background on that. Oh god, Ashby, huh?
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You guys need to clean your house. You need to clean your house. You need to be accountable. How about my
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evidence Donna Gordon who got hit by one of your YCSO. Yet the investigation I got the
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report. So let me say about the report. So I had pulled and requested a public record and so in that I did not get the
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investigation report or the report. I got some of the photos from what is going to be coming out. And in that you
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have the front passenger light, cracked. You the hood up top by
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where the windshield meets the hood area dented and then you have the passenger door that's
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popped out. So, that would take an investigation person that can tell you how fast they're
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going but definitely wouldn't be slow. I mean, you let your door wouldn't pop up that far out and those photos are on my
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blog and there is for I can make sure that Donna's in story is told in truth and that's and
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she's she gave me so much of truth. I want to make sure her end story is truth. However, it's kind of spliced everybody
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because I, the kid, who was not a kid. Now, he's in his 30s. The deputy, I've watched him
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grow up. I love his family and so this is heart wrenching for me because here I as I want the
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truth, I also don't want to see something good come from this and and some men or some way
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and that's I think what happened on the RNL when you parallel the thing. I think some of the people that are real close in would like just
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something good to from from it. However, people don't realize. I was on that fire. I was on
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the Weaver Mountains. I was with the men. They're dead. I'm not and I need to find documents to lead to the truth
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and that's what I'm in it for and so, it's not late. It's not a blame game. It's finding out what happened and then going
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from there to try to make some changes because it shouldn't happen again. So, doing our best to lessen wildland firefighters fatalities is my
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only goal on this. So, here we go. I got the photos and you guys can't even see that guy
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wasn't going fast. Nah, I don't hear it. You guys need to start doing your job.
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Amen. In the house, in the sanctuary, right here. I had to
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be there when 19 men died and you guys are the chain of evidence break. You know how
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that breaks me up? Breaks me up. I go to the State Forestry
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and show them all the evidence and it starts with you guys. So
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this is a very layered fire Yarn Hill Fire. It's not just like simple that it just stopped with Yavapai County
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Sheriff's Office. It they are a layer within the many layers within this thing. But yes a
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very significant crucial piece of documentation. Uh I asked in the springtime for yeah if I kind of sheriff's office so let
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me meet with the deputies that gathered the bones. So there's a one at Gather the Bones and one that bones got transferred to this other deputy So, I had
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to ask for an interview that was all set up and then they go in ahead and cancelled that interview and in this
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documentation, it's a big thread of stuff gathered from June 30th to July 7th of 2013
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and on it, they have the GPS coordinates of two
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firefighters. I won't do it. It's an inappropriate platform to name the people. However, they are deceased from June
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30th, 2013 and yes, they are two firefighters. Uh outside that, I will not name the names
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here on this live thread However, they were gathered with placing names on it. So,
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for them to place a name on something that never went anywhere yet, they're just sitting gathering inventory
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situation. That's a red flag for me because that means somebody got in their ear. Number two, they placed the GPS
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coordinates on it. When you go and Google it, at the time, there it which is all a document already that provided
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in it and it shows it's night right behind the helm home over to the left. So, I I had a
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concern that we didn't address it. So, if we're talking Lieutenant Pritchard that you're here to help the people.
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I'm one of the people that almost died on June 30th, 2013. So, help me finalize and get
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this without taking you guys to court, to summons, anything, and waste my money and time and
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my health, energy, any further. Help me. If you really want to help, let me speak to these
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deputies and and and finally get some closure and healing closure like I got last weekend
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like I was telling you from another firefighter You understand? The past summer, I have been getting so many and
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and I'm telling you, the city of Prescott right now, I I'm going to let you know some of your stations, they need to
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either, you guys either memo out, but they have addressed things to me and so, I know
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more than I will speak, but I guaranteeing you right now, this is awful, that there's too
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many people out there that right now, no more information,
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and that's unfair to not only self and Sonny Gilligan who were the eyewitness on the fire
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in history of wildland fires that didn't happen and to have the tenacity that I've taken it to almost 10 years and to have
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the body cam have where Sergeant Ashby's is like, well, why did she keep that in? Why this long? Because you guys
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aren't telling the truth, you know? That's why when you guys start telling the truth, I can move on but I'm moving on
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either way. See, I do this plus that. So, it's like a side thing because I'm not going to let it go. I want those
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children and the grandma and no, somebody cared enough. Do you guys care enough because that's what I need to know. I
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can tell you right now. I could show you the documentation but I won't give you at all. No
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way. Cuz you guys didn't even give it to me in a public records request. I got this from another entity. So this is
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disturbing. People. This is stuff that should be out there already in the investigation
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report. Failure to do a difficult right thing is what I'm going to tell you right now. So let's go ahead and play
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the rest. You know, you take in bones, it goes to the medical examiner and then it has a of
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evidence but no, it breaks with you guys. Right next to the helms, you know how that makes
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me feel? and then I have to have that all the time in my
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face. You might say I have to have that. I'm actually showing my body language towards Sergeant Ashby because if you look at my YouTube, my post, my
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blog. She countless times since this beginning and I remember
27:12
it was December 1st when I was doing my blood labs and my cancer markers up in Prescott and then at the mountain there.
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She said that afternoon when I told her she had till 3 PM that afternoon to apologize to me. When she called me afternoon,
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she told me it was a very sensitive situation. **** Really? I'm the eyewitness
27:29
lady. You guys might have been there on the aftermath to pick up the pieces and everything but I'm the one that was there watching it. I know about the
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fires down below, okay? Thank you. Anyways, here's the rest. Picks me up but god's watching
27:41
and we're in the sanctuary right now. You want to talk? Amen. Well, we're going to spin around for a little while. I'm
27:48
sorry. Is there any issues? Appreciate. So, Lieutenant Pritchard, he's the one that came towards. I thought maybe
27:53
he had body cam because he came towards me and he said, I'm sorry that you, you know, like something to the fact that I saw you went through that. So,
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that that was very kind but I did ask Morgan if I could request some records. They didn't have any recording from
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yesterday. I confirmed that today. But when we get into the next thing because this is the
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meeting. I'm going to go ahead and tell you. I call the evidence and we'll go through it from there. You know what
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the people you think can have that issue? Uh also I'm going to have Okay. So, now,
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we're going to go. We did the lieutenant. We did the hearing last night. Now, we're going to go to Evidence. So, this is what I call evidence
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department.
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Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office. How may I direct your call? Uh yes. Uh Yavapai County
28:41
Sheriff's Evidence Office Okay, hold on one moment. Thank you.
28:53
The Fight County Sheriff's Office? Uh yes, I was told this week by a lieutenant that I can
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pick up my new trespassing custom signs that were. Okay. On on Monday? Okay.
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The motor serious psychology from that Sergeant Ashby. Serious rhythmology, verbal,
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all around and from other people in the
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end. Thank you for holding the sisters and how can I help you? Hi, Susan. I had a lieutenant say that you guys have some of my items and evidence that
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you're going to release to me. Um I just kind of want to know the process and how that works because in the conversation,
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he's going to go back and look and see but Lieutenant Winfrey had told this other Lieutenant
29:50
that you guys have items of mine. Uh so, is it by
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appointment or? Yeah, correct. Sorry. Yeah. Try a little fast. So, they're your items that you have here. Yeah. Correct. Uh
30:02
huh. And. Okay. My question is. Do you have a case number? No. I do not. It's do you guys were
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to build a criminal case under Sergeant Deanne Lynette Ashby
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and that would be back in June twenty twenty-one. Okay. And then my name is Joy A Colora.
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Can you spell your last name for me? C COLLURA And what's
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your date of birth? Seven one seven two. Alright, let me look
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up and see what we have. Okay.
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When were these items taken? June 2021.
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It wasn't September. Uh she could have finally put it into evidence in September because that is one of the that is when
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the Lieutenant Winfrey spoke to me in the first portion of the September of twenty twenty-one.
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Let me pull this file really quick. Let me place you on a brief hold. I thank you.
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So remember everybody, Sergeant Ashby is trying to build a criminal for trespassing case
32:34
against me and at this point, I'm encountering that challenge and documentation. We were able
32:42
to talk about Uh where it comes to sergeant and
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it's a headache. I don't mean. It's time wasting. Time spent to be wasted.
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Again, for their narratives, agendas, queries, who know question mark questionnaire.
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be seven of them. I have four.
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Okay. So that's all we have at this time and at this time, I don't have anything saying that this, that these items are
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available for release. So, I don't know. So, that's the status of it. Do I need to county attorney's office? Yeah,
34:50
can I Email it to you? What the, the recording from the lieutenant we talked yeah, I
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think yesterday or yeah, it was yesterday. Um my recommendation would be to talk to him again
35:02
and have him send us an Email. Okay. Um have him sent, he knows how to get a hold of us.
35:07
Okay. So, if he would like those items released, he needs to send us an Email and let us
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know.
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that's what he would like. Yeah, because in his statement yesterday, he said that Lieutenant Winfrey already told me that those were released to me. That's not, that would be untrue, I told him. He goes,
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well, I'll look into it because I said, nope, I did not get any notification from evidence department or anyone. Yeah. So,
35:32
we, typically, what happens is we get something from the county attorney's office saying you can release these items and
35:38
then, we check in with the deputy and say, is this okay that we give these items back? And then, we send out a card
35:44
saying, hey, come and pick up your stuff. We have here. So, it doesn't look like we have any paperwork at all on this
35:51
case. So. So then also if that's the case, we're waiting on this lieutenant to do that. Um what is the legal holding of
35:58
it that long? I just don't understand. Right now, according to us, it's
36:03
constituting as evidence. So, typically, the county attorney's office is the one that will let us know, hey, you
36:10
can let it go. Okay. So, as far as what happens and what they have to do with it, I honestly, it's not really our thing. Yeah, right. Um and we wait for
36:15
that note, that official notification from them or from the deputies and then we then
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we do what we have to do to get get them back to you. Gotcha. So, because I have you on the
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phone. Yes. Let me verify that we have the correct address for you and phone number. Is that
36:33
okay? It It's just. Is it you're going to do a physical address? I have in order for us
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to mail a card to you. Oh, it's PO box. Five seven two. Okay. So, what's your point you get?
36:45
PO box? Five seven two. Five seven two. Congress. Uh huh and then eight five three three
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two. That's good because I only had
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a physical address. Yeah. It wouldn't have worked out. And I have a phone number of four eight zero five five nine one nine seven one. Is that still
37:02
correct? Yes. So yeah, if you've been in contact with the
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lieutenant and they want to send us an Email allowing for release, please feel free to do so. So. Yeah. At this point in
37:16
time, we don't have any other notification. Yeah, because when I said, you know what? I'm going to call evidence because he's saying that that that
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Lieutenant Winfrey already is in the assertive that they already released that and that's untrue. So, I was like,
37:27
I'm going to call you guys and see what you had in your notes. That's because I I I'm the most documented person like, nope,
37:33
didn't happen. Yeah we still have them. We still have them here. So, yeah. If they want to
37:39
send us something or we can send out, I mean, we just need to, we need to get all of our
37:46
paperwork in before we can allow for relief. That's fine. I just want to know because I'm going to be in that area this week. So, I was like, well,
37:52
maybe one stop, you know, to go get em but if not, that's fine. Yeah, I mean, they're pretty
37:57
easy for us to give it. I mean, there, we don't have to, it's not like a gun. what we have to do background check or anything. Right. So, so yeah, if you can, if you want to work
38:03
through getting approval, sent over to us. Like I said, any lieutenant knows how to get a hold of us. They can easily
38:09
send us an Email and let us know. Alright, sounds good. Have a day. Alright. You too. Take care. Bye. So after that I
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after talking to evidence mentioned the county attorney. I went ahead and called them.
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So here's that. So, it is October 19th at 12 59 PM. I'm
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calling the County Attorney elected 2000 Sheila Polk. Uh so, let's go ahead and do that.
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Good afternoon, County Attorney's Office. Well, honestly. Okay.
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Look at all the time I've wasted. Based on
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based on these caused me harm. Yeah.
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There's the evidence there.
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documentation and evidence. confusion versus blaze
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narratives. Remember God's watching everything. Everything we do.
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It is nice that when the train goes by every day, it's got a different
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Thank you for holding. How may I help you? Oh yes, I'm looking for the county attorney, Sheila Polk. Is it in regards to a
40:54
particular case? I was calling the Yavapai County Evidence that was told by a lieutenant that my stuff was ready to pick
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up and then it's tied up in from you guys as not being released and nothing in the
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system and that's from June twenty twenty-one. What is your name?
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COLLURA. First name Joy. Middle initial A.
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Oh, by the way, Harry Ober, my division one was. Are you a witness in the case or was it,
41:32
were you a victim in the case? Well, if you, in reality, that'd be true. Uh, but you
41:37
guys have we're building a criminal case against me. I
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only show you connected as a, as a witness to a case. Um, let
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me just double check to make sure I felt your last name correctly. C O L L U R A. Yeah.
41:58
Okay, first name of joy. Mm hmm. I do not see any active
42:08
cases. Um. Yeah. In their system. Every June 2021 and they won't release it until you
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guys. I don't yeah but I don't have a case. So, I don't have a case. Hm. Uh in our system. Um
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so, if it's from June twenty twenty, what was it? Court? No, I was Sergeant Deanne Lynette
42:30
Ashby was trying to build a criminal, no trespassing case.
42:37
Okay. Um so, it may be that they are still pending. Their
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investigation and have not submitted it to our office as of yet. Um. It shows on the Evidence Department that it is
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with the Attorney of the Attorney Attorney Office. Well, I need to tell you, I am the
42:58
county attorney's office and I have nothing under your name from the Sheriff's Office. Thank you. For an
43:03
investigation. Thank you. 2021. How about September? Cuz she, when she looked in her system.
43:08
Nothing. Okay nothing under your name at all. Sheriff? As for a criminal case against
43:14
you. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. Okay. I have I have one case where you were listed as a
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witness in a case from 2013. Oh, for your sign? Tree. Yeah,
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the only entry I have. So, I'm assuming miss Sergeant Ashby
43:34
never. You hear that? This is a person that looks to her whole
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system for my name. Nothing shows up but being an eyewitness on the Arnold Hellfire. You know criminal
43:45
background. No nothing. So, like what's going on y'all if I kind of share this office? Why
43:51
do you still have my customized, expensive, no trespassing signs, please. Tell me. Committed her case. Doctor.
43:57
She may have said that. Got it. On her paperwork. But the case
44:02
never was submitted to our office. Okay, sounds good. So, it's just in that loop then. It just never got submitted. It
44:08
was in the paperwork and then, go back to the lieutenant that called me yesterday. That's cool. Yeah and I apologize
44:16
where it seems like we're, you know, getting, you're getting the runaround, but it's, it's
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something somewhere over at the sheriff's office and, and if they want us to review it,
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then, they can send it over to us. Sounds good. Alright, have a beautiful day. Okay. Thank
44:32
you, you too. Bye. so that was at one o'clock this
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afternoon and then we'd go back to the evidence. I get done with that and then at one
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thirty-one, I go ahead or is that one sixteen? I go ahead and call evidence back. So, here we go.
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County Sheriff's Office. Have I direct your call? Evidence department? Just a moment.
45:00
Yes, I can be sheriff about this evidence. Oh, yeah. I just called before. My name is Joy
45:06
Kalora. Mm hmm. So, I come, I talked to the county attorney and they've never had a case
45:12
ever in regards to me except they said, I'm in their system as the eyewitness to the Arnell
45:18
Hill fire where the nineteen men died. Other than that, they don't have anything.
45:25
Okay. Um so do you need to talk to an evidence tech regarding
45:31
this? Well, yeah, because you guys are holding my, no trespassing sign since June 2021 and I'm just wondering
45:37
where is this leading to Okay. Okay. Hold on 1 minute. Okay.
45:55
October 19th, 116 PM. Thank you for holding this and Susan. How can I help you? Hi, Susan. We
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just talked before. Uh Joy Kalora. Hi. So, I talked to the county attorney's office and
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they said in the history of your county, they've never had any thing filed against me
46:13
except that I am the eyewitness to the Arnold Hellfire where the 19 men died. Okay. So,
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there should be zero documentation to have my stuff held that long. Okay. So, you
46:27
had stated that you talked to a lieutenant of some sort. Pritchard, yeah, P R I T. Yup.
46:32
Mm hmm. Right, I know him. So, were you going to get a hold of him to have him send us something? Um that. Or do you
46:38
want me? Yeah, could you do that because of the altercation that last night at the town meeting. Um the Lieutenant very
46:48
kindly and warm got out and spoke in front of Congresstown and then one of the people was
46:55
upset about the OHV regulations not being enforced and then Sergeant Ashby stated that she
47:01
would handle that matter and that's when I said handle the matter like you did. She's the
47:07
one that's been a thorn in my side from day one after the Yarnell fire when I've all I've tried to do is get the
47:13
documentation to lead to a conclusion and she's been my biggest distraction and all that. Okay. Alright, I'll go
47:20
ahead and send him an Email and then I already got your information down. So, if he gives me the go ahead, then, I will go ahead and give you a
47:27
and we can set up an appointment. Yeah, great. Yeah, because there's no legal reason
47:32
at this point if there's not even a case or anything in the system. Right, absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Sounds good. Alright, bye. Yeah, no problem.
47:38
Take care. Bye. So, in the past day, Gariel
47:45
Olsen, I would love to give you all his credits. He's going to really go on to his social media, look at his crits. He's
47:51
got a hell of a background. Uh stated, well I'm going to pause
47:57
out because I don't know if children are viewing this or not. So, any cuss words, I'm going to go beep. So, it says,
48:02
well, hallelujah. Praise the lord and pass ammunition. I've
48:07
been asking a question begging and or cajoling whatever I can't read. Sun glare on my
48:12
screen. Pleading and everything else with just a short of borderline threatening you to
48:18
hear about see, read, and just learn about some of your evidence now for almost 10 years, almost a decade, almost
48:24
one tenth of a with three little ammonicons of oh wait
48:29
please somebody pinch me but not on that link because that's
48:34
excites me because I might just be still asleep and just dream it but joyous might finally be coming forward which is some of
48:41
her evidence and so thank you the good Lord. The plot is going to thicken. God forbid the plot should finally attain
48:47
some clarity. It's very difficult. I told them sir once you learn. I feel for all
48:52
involved. And I do. I feel strongly for everybody involved on all levels from from local
48:58
to towns, communities, surrounding communities,
49:03
county, cities, especially the cities And now what I know, it
49:09
breaks my heart. Uh state, federal, all of it. My heart goes out to everyone. All I'm
49:15
trying to do is get the documents to lead to why I almost died and how 19 men did die. And in that Gary, I have
49:22
to state to it has to be done with grace. Because if I can't handle the truth, how am I
49:29
expect anybody else to handle the truth. So, we hired in January Uh we have a lawyer and
49:37
a political publicist and they're working behind the scenes on that. Uh we're trying to figure out the best way to
49:42
put it out because it's not easy. But I think it's about
49:47
time people understand I have so many tens of thousands of
49:53
documents that's already out there Gary. So for you to make that statement like I just now, I'm putting stuff out. I've
49:59
been putting stuff out more than any human being. I, there's not person. First of
50:04
all, it's done more than me. I've been on those Weaver Mountains since the Yarn Hill Fire over a thousand times trying to educate, get people
50:10
to understand, comprehend, see where the positions were. Do you know how many times I'm on the Weaver Mountains? And they
50:18
say, oh, this is where the great amount Mount Hot Shots were that day. **** The Gretamom Hotshots were over by
50:23
the observation day. Deck up top and down by the saddle and down below. Now, anywhere else.
50:30
Number eleven, Anthony Rose is where I came out with Sonny Gilli down to the windmill over on Ackerys Land and out by
50:37
Foothills where we're parked, it made it out and looking at the homeowner's accounts and
50:42
all the different photos and the videos and stuff, we have a documentation of only 11 minutes that we made it out.
50:48
When we were over on Acura's property on June 30th, 2013 and we were in that wash. I wanted
50:53
to fall asleep for a little bit because I was dumb, spent, heat stroked. Had I done that, I
50:59
wouldn't be here today. Had Sonny not come back for me on top of the Weaver Mountains. I wouldn't be here today. He had
51:04
my water I had my feet out of my snake boots, the edema had kicked in and anybody that
51:10
deals with edema knows exactly what that means. I had already walked from the DMV that week
51:16
all the way by Chino Valley, Prescott, down. My feet were tired. And so, when I have
51:23
evidence, when I say I have evidence back channel, I am limited in resources. I have to
51:29
rely on Fred and I have to rely on Scotty Briggs. Have you done
51:35
anything, Gary? Have you guys, anybody? Have you accept back channel talk **** about me,
51:42
people? I'm doing the difficult right thing and I've done it from day one. The second person
51:47
who's done the difficult right thing would be Fred J Sheffler because in my public records which I'm Queen of Records,
51:53
he's the most announced person to stay away from because he will dig for the truth is what those Email threads say. And
52:00
then you, Gary, would be the next one and then Bob Powers on the stands of the 10 and 18, the ten standard fire orders,
52:07
and the eighteen watch outs. When say things on the website
52:12
about Dawn Devendorf, I'm not picking on Dawn Devendorf. I have to take documents to lead
52:17
to a conclusion. So, if I scatternally put things out, there's always a reason behind what I do. It is not to harm or
52:24
hurt anybody to show but it's a beautiful story. Beautiful story. If people wanted to
52:29
learn and I will do a post on it someday about Dawn
52:35
Devendorf. Look at he earned his way in those positions. Sure. You look at the
52:40
documentation on my recent post on some of his verbiage and then you listen to some of the recordings that some of you
52:45
guys have out there. Very similar in that verbiage. So, I'm just trying to push out
52:51
truth, documents to lead to those truths. not trying to
52:56
cause harm, just trying to get what I deserve and that's the truth of why I almost died on June 30th but 19 men did and
53:03
let me tell you something. It's hard because I know some of you guys. Now, I go to the Fire
53:11
Academy's and get trained. You know what's so sad? I'm sorry, Libby. I'm going to bring up your name in this You guys have
53:17
a mission and a value system. I understand because I have been side by side mister Fred
53:24
Sheffler for many years now and we have countless times had a ups and downs back and forth
53:31
and there's not one finer person you're going to meet out there that wants the truth out about the Grandmount Hot Shots.
53:37
He was also someone that was on my documentation of being shelf. I had to have crew time reports, resource orders. There
53:44
was nobody around my system. If you were my immediate, you still were being searched out. I've have given this an
53:51
unbiased look and that I can say, looking back. And when it comes to Scotty Briggs and the
53:57
recent pause on September 15th, 2022. That was a permanent pause. And the reason why I say
54:03
permanent because I'm always here to rectify or make things better. But when I wildland
54:09
firefighters foundation having a lot going on. It's a fire
54:15
season and they had so much going and happening and there was a death just recently when I came into that on the the
54:22
eighteenth, I got toward and I arrived on the 17th of July on
54:28
the eighteenth. I got a tour of the expansion and it was so traumatizing for me to go and I
54:35
even just talking about it. I lose my breath. Then, I
54:41
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I could never step back into that building again, ever. Based on
54:50
what I saw on the walls, and I asked for a public record form
54:55
just to lead to a conclusion to find out who's, where, and what
55:00
and figure it all out because it didn't add up. What I was seeing on the walls. And noone
55:05
would I know. And you know, you couldn't be the finer, excellent person. Then Vicky
55:12
Miner and Brooke Miner. But I have to do my, I would have to do this from an unbiased thing.
55:18
So, when I was told in an excitable voice and I want you all to look and think, when you
55:23
talk to Scott Briggs, there's certain that I listen to tones and everything. And when he state that Vicki Minor was
55:31
asking about the desert walker. He was excited when he was telling me that. Ask him, you know, what can they do? How can
55:37
we can help her? And he said, I counseling. You know, I I got the best counselors, you know.
55:44
All I need is the truth. I have the best brain doctors. I have the breast brain, cerebral cares. I have the best brain
55:50
health care. Uh you can ever ask for and and I'll tell you when I'm tired or sick, the
55:55
ganglia gets overactive and that's it and I have a a natural supplement that Gamma
56:02
is something that you can just take and it calms that thing area down. but other than that,
56:08
Wildland Firefighter Foundation on July 18th 2022, I had been a lifetime member for one year
56:15
and I did my resignation letter. Based on what I saw on the wall that is my life, my my
56:24
I'm allowed to do that and and anybody tied to the company, I want zero association with. The
56:31
Vos Jet Company. I am not laying blame on you guys. All I'm saying is when you have letters in the back channel
56:38
from a Senator Hayes stating that Tibitorian that he laid down for many decades and
56:45
killing the other story and all the chemicals that were placed down in the communities. When
56:50
you see that, and then you see the aftermath and you see the detour plant, the gemstone
56:55
weed, the binoxious weeds, the the density of that was out there. When you see that out
57:01
there, and then you go and see when I'm up there, you gotta remember, I wasn't just there
57:07
on June 30th. I was there on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. and on Friday, we went to the
57:13
Yarno. On Friday, we got a call from Rhonda Carnes from the gas station here in Congress and we
57:18
were on Norton Way and you remember, we had just walked in that DMV that week up in Prescott and my feet were
57:24
tired. So, I was just staying local. No mountains, no slopes and when she called and she goes, did you see that lightning strike? Are you on
57:30
the weavers? I said, no, Rhonda. I'm not on the weavers. I'm over on Norton Way, keeping
57:35
it simple on flat ground and over here, all we see is dark gray skies dry lightning.
57:41
That's it. She goes, wow, we saw the lightning. Now, there's a fire over there. So, I go
57:47
over to the towers because we're walking that day. We're not driving around or anything. We're walking and I get over
57:52
there over to the tower and I don't see anything because of the ridges but all I could have in my mind was those
57:59
prospectors that we had just told down in congress that are new and a lot of people don't even know what what were we
58:05
doing up there that weekend, you know, we had Heckman, Chief Heckman saying, oh, if I had knew you're up there, I woulda arrested you. Yeah, right Okay.
58:12
Well, the reason why we're up there, we had two prospectors. We had met on the 16th of June.
58:19
One was in Wisconsin, one was from Wyoming, one was a teacher, retired, and one was a professor tired. First time
58:25
crack at it. They wanted to be prospectors. Go for the gold. And they were out there in the
58:30
hot heat in June. Unfamiliar of how it works. The cold bills,
58:35
the warm belts, of the Weaver Mountains and I thought, I I come, I could teach him the
58:42
tools. I can tell them where to go. The geezer guys, I like a drink too. So, when here in the
58:47
sun, you get depleted and you like to drink, Imma live and let live person. Allow people
58:52
to whatever. I don't try to change people but let me explain something. That sun could kill you real fast if
58:57
you're not used to being around this area. So, I told them about the cold belts. You go
59:02
over by the clogged crop ranch area, the amendment area and not near Ackrey's but in their
59:08
surrounding those areas. There's some nice cold belts. There's where the mountain lions and the bears are mostly.
59:13
So, I them about that. You know, and so, when I'm out
59:19
there on the tower on that Friday, I'm thinking about those people. Are they up there? Did they go up there? I
59:24
better check it out. I better find out. I felt really bad if
59:29
something happened to them. So, we we went a little bit but
59:34
we're tired, man. I had edema. So, we went back. I said, I'm I'm going to sleep in. I told
59:40
Ronda, I was sleeping in. I'll get it the next day. Or in 150, we get to the Yarnell Fire Department. We're at the Yar
59:46
Fire Department knocking. Guy Dart Yarnell shirt. Dark hair.
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Black hair. Tall. Comes to the door. And he says can I help you? Yeah. I just want to know
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if there is a fire. How's that going? Oh it's all under control. I said so it's okay because I want to go alert some
1:00:05
prospectors that when I explain my whole story to him. Yeah. Where are things under control?
1:00:10
Everything's good. But at the same time he's telling me everything's under control. Sonny Gilligan and I. We heard the F bombs in the background.
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Some kind of arguments. It was until later, years later that we were learning from the
1:00:22
first-hand firefighters that were in that building. What really happened on Saturday in the jurisdiction issues from
1:00:28
the first hand firefighters and the F bombs were reality because they were fighting. So,
1:00:34
that was hard because we were up on the weavers on Saturday on the twenty-ninth and when we
1:00:41
were going out there, we went by Bob Kramer's place and and Rita Pollock was talking to Bob Kramer and and I said, we're
1:00:48
just going to go out real quick and stuff and you know, it's late out there. So, we park off a candy cane lane. We go in. Uh
1:00:54
they're kind of like the back curve way and up behind the helms and then we curve out and
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I have all this on my blog. I put my whole entire pattern of my walking step. It's all out there on my blog and so then I
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and we're coming back that evening on Saturday. It was kind of like a a show of fire,
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you know, and we were with Bob Kramer and Rita Pollock and we're sitting there on the
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fencing area between the two properties of them too and and we're just talking, you know, never thought, you know, we
1:01:25
just thought it was a wildfire. We didn't know anything about it. Come Sunday, I I said, I
1:01:31
gotta get to those guys. Oh, the reason why we turned around on Saturday was because there
1:01:36
was bears and it was over by the homes by the Boulderist area and then, that's all on the blog. I I mark everywhere
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where everything is and then on Sunday,
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it's one of the hardest times of my entire life because
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I I don't know how to explain it. It breaks me up. So I'm just going to tell you. We get out. I go through McCrary's
1:02:02
place. We go the back way. The old Borough Trail. As we're going by the first the cattle
1:02:08
pond. and then you curve and you go over behind the helms. And then you go to the base
1:02:14
where the men deployed. That's where we argued Sunday night because he wanted to go up and
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it even breaking day And I wanted to go around and and
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scale the boulders. Cuz I know how many snake man Tommy Maid and I and Frankie Sarah's. I
1:02:31
know how many rattlesnakes we've dropped up in that area. I was like yeah. I don't want to go up that and you know
1:02:37
because you gotta fight. It's like a maze intertwined. The density of the vegetation out
1:02:43
there. It was not. So I I I didn't want to do it. I was stubborn. I told them. And
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Sonny usually is stubborn too and does his thing and I do my thing. But this time he followed me. And we scaled the boulders round, headed towards
1:02:55
the way of the helms and curving around and we come out of wash and when we came out of
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the wash, who do we see coming out of the wash not too as far after us was Eric, Shane Marsh.
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And Holly Henderson Neil was the only person and person that
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I told that to and she showed me some strawberries early on and so when she would show me
1:03:21
these strawberries, she goes, what do you, what do you think of this area? And at the same time, she me that. She was
1:03:26
asking about me and Sonny in our relationship and you know, we always joke about Sonny and
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I, the old married couple. He's old and unmarried and yet, I have always if anybody knew me,
1:03:39
I I love my grandpa so much and I have them. Break some heart.
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I always will have an emotional layer because he's taught me so much about how to pioneer and live off the land but I I also
1:04:01
have taught him a lot on how to live off the land. So, when Holly was telling me all about
1:04:07
this area, she was so fixated on the relationship between Sonny and I. Ask him really
1:04:14
private questions too and I thought, well, that's weird for first time and she's like, oh, you're a real estate agent. I
1:04:20
looked you up and everything. I'm like, nope, just a housewife, hiker. And she goes,
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no,
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you up and and so there is a joy and and and it's in Florida
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that has the same exact couple name as Nehemiah
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spouse and yeah it just blows me away that they were so
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fixated on creating a distraction and I ended up
1:05:01
going to a smoke jumper conference from her co-partner
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doing a book and this summer her co-partner stated he's not
1:05:15
doing the RNL fire. I'm making a public statement. I would
1:05:21
love your content and and you give me a price on what want for that. I've paid enough prime on public records. Some entities, they owe me money back but you know, in god's
1:05:27
time, in god's way, I'll get that money back some other way because I doubt I'll ever get it back from the entities that truly do owe it to me and when we go up the mountain, when
1:05:32
Eric Shane Marsh came up to us, we didn't think anything of it. I know Sonny in authority. So, I I was just trying to you know, let's get him away like let's get going, you know, kind
1:05:38
of mentality And when he asked which way is the best way to the fire Funny firefighters escanos the hikers but I guess that's that local factors on your watchout situations, right? So, when he asked us the
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way to the fire, Sonny answered. But he looked at me when he asked. And then Sonny
1:05:50
answered. And when after that that's around 807 in the
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morning on June 30th. Within two minutes we saw him tying pink ribbons onto the bushes
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and I made a funny comment. Uh would tell back channel and not
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for channel. And it's it's a thing that's we we're going
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through the erosion part going up the mountain The Eric Shane
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Marsh was like a rabbit. He can go up and down. He was conditioned. He was he was not
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tired. He was fully with energy. He was full of passion.
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This guy had a a thing for fire and you could feel it And It
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breaks my heart that there's so many people that lay all the blame on Eric over time and
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it's not what I saw that day. You know. So we're getting up to the top and I have to go to
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the bathroom. And I'm looking to go behind the boulder. And Eric Shane Marsh comes down and he tells me you see that man up
1:06:59
there? You gotta leave. We're going to be dropping **** and it's better me to tell you than
1:07:04
that man up there. And I was like alright people don't realize. I had a head-on
1:07:10
recording going on that moment and then as we passed the
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Granite Mountain Hotshots going down. But because of something Sunny said and we'll tell you
1:07:21
in a moment. But when we're up on top the guy that's can now
1:07:28
considered the mystery man which during my investigation in all of the interviews, they
1:07:34
disregarded or even said that he don't exist. Uh it breaks my
1:07:40
heart that people will go to great lengths to hide, omit, cover, the truth and I have the
1:07:49
documentations that lead to the truth And I hope today that some of you that you're
1:07:54
going to speak up, do you speak up, And some of you, I removed off my Facebook list because
1:08:01
you didn't speak up when you said you're going to speak up and so I was frustrated and I
1:08:08
know, I'm so I'm kind of going all over the place because my head's just kind of numb right
1:08:14
now but as we left, going down. Sonny said, take a picture of that guy up top. So, while we're in a different section, I
1:08:20
took a far away picture of him. So, I got a blurry image but I was told that guy didn't exist
1:08:29
From people that are of authority that was doing the research to investigate this virus. And so it blew me away. That something wasn't adding
1:08:35
up. But when we went up there there was four or five tiny bushes on fire. And then that's
1:08:41
also from the fire that was made from the day before from the prison crew. From Saturday. There was some smoldering fusy
1:08:48
actions over by the old mine. And that's what we eye witnessed. So when we're coming
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down. Sonny said take your camera out. Take your camera out. Take
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pictures. Take there's some men. Take pictures. A whole bunch of people coming. And I didn't want to do that. So I put the camera in my chest
1:09:06
area. Hanging it over my neck. And I put on live video. So I
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have a live video of the Granite Mountain Hotshots as we passed by them. And Sonny said
1:09:17
those men look like they're on their death march. It made me like whoa. The hairs on my
1:09:23
thing. I was like a quickly took the SD card and put another SD card and slipped it in my my jeans. My pants. and
1:09:33
So, my hiking pants. So, when week passed, I still had to go to the bathroom. So, we go up
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onto a knoll and we go and do that and that's when I got a
1:09:46
lot of photos taken. Uh thousands and thousands of photos were taken somebody,
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well, well, I don't want to go fast forward. So, let me just go in in chronological order
1:09:59
and so as we're going down past the erosion spot and then over to the two track that leads
1:10:06
over to the helms to the saddle as one of our first positions and again, all these positions
1:10:11
are on my blog. You can see exact steps I was. We seen the the arms of Eric Shane Marsh go
1:10:19
up in the air. As Jesse was with the crew over to the left
1:10:24
more and that was when we looked and that's when the retardant was being dropped. It was as though this man was
1:10:30
frustrated that some we don't know what happened but
1:10:37
hands up in the air was what I saw And then we go over to around the corner which would
1:10:43
be near the observation deck today of the Granite Mount Hotshot Memorial Trail Park.
1:10:49
And when we're up there we watched it. We had the best view of everything. The best
1:10:55
view, the fires, the best view of the men, the best view of the firefighters down below. The best view of the helms. We
1:11:02
had the best view over anybody. You could see the in the distance. So recently when
1:11:07
Karen Norris was saying look at the article from every riddle I had to walk away. I know more
1:11:14
than I speak. And I do that because I don't want to be the one to speak it. I would hope
1:11:21
the ones when I push things out or shake things or get that tree shook. I like to get to
1:11:28
the origin of stuff. And the root of things. And and we all have to remember God exists and
1:11:35
we have to do our best to not do this in a frustrating or anger way. And try to bridge
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this in the most graceful way. Because this is God's time and
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God's will. And so when I was it? I took my boots off because
1:11:52
they were swelling. And I was done because once you take your boots off, you're pretty much done. Goes with the swelling.
1:11:58
And Sunny took off with my water And he was gone.
1:12:04
Approximately 40 minutes. And when he came back, he says, kid, you gotta get the hell out
1:12:10
of here. They they have radios. They have all those things and they're shown and there was an
1:12:15
aircraft coming over with some and he said, those are body bags and so, I said
1:12:22
Sonny, I'm tired and I'm going to sit here for a while. He goes, Joy, if that fired, if
1:12:28
that fire advances, this is like a shoot, a tunnel, or what do you say? A chimney. It will
1:12:34
kill us. We gotta go. And I didn't see the danger in it. I followed him and we got to the
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Converse side. It was kind of up and down. he was helping me.
1:12:50
I was helping him It was a struggle because on the
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congress side, you had to slide down the boulders before June 30th and the fire didn't take
1:13:02
it away. Um he had a slide down. So, like what you see at the Memorial Trail Park, that was a lot of hard work from the
1:13:09
conservation group as well as the prison crews which people gave the prison crews more credit because there was a lot
1:13:15
of work done by them as well because I was a witness to that and didn't look like that which
1:13:21
you guys get to trail on today. It wasn't like that on June 30th 2013. He had a slide-down bull a terrain that was so
1:13:28
thick that when you drop down you braided and hit something or you know stepped on a snake.
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Uh we it's Frankie Saros and Snake Man for long time dropped
1:13:42
rattlesnakes in the side of actually where the parking lot right now is. Is where we used to put so many rattlesnakes
1:13:49
from our towns when people had to rattlesnake in their garage. That's where we let them go. Was right there. So we dropped
1:13:58
down and we get to number eleven Anthony Rose of the Granite Mountain Hasha Memorial
1:14:04
Trail today but on June 30th, that's where we positioned ourself and said, let's go down this way versus the Boulders
1:14:11
Congress side because we don't have a ride in our vehicles that way. So, we went down
1:14:16
towards the windmill where Akri is And then we went out to McCrary's where the foothills
1:14:22
where the vehicle was and so, that's how we ended up and it was until we got to learn over
1:14:29
the years the homeowners accounts, the firefighters
1:14:34
accounts that were in that area, the sheriffs, all these different peoples when they would give me their accounts and fire photos and videos and
1:14:41
I promise them animated and I still to this day will never throw them under the bus. But
1:14:47
some of them are most crucial information that leads to the proper conclusion versus what
1:14:54
the sets are disappointingly did you guys as homeowners did to me in Sonny Gilligan and to
1:15:00
the family of the Granite Mount Hodgeshots. Uh you should be disappointed in yourself for putting a product and I know
1:15:05
you're trying to you know avoid liability and you're trying to avoid this and that but it is a
1:15:10
poor product and I can say that because I'm the eyewitness to that fire And then the Ados try
1:15:17
to do their best to you know what? How could they do their best? And when you had Tom
1:15:22
Harbor given the towie regulations and and making sure that didn't happen that a proper assessment couldn't be
1:15:29
made. So, no, no investigation and then when you look at what was in the, look at what I'm dealing with. June 2021 over
1:15:36
some stinking no trespassing signs. Well, the GPS units,
1:15:42
they were in YCSO evidence for how long after they weren't even included in the
1:15:47
investigation reports. Go read my post on that. So, Gary, if you think I haven't done
1:15:52
anything, I've done above and beyond any human being has ever done on a fire fatality on the
1:15:59
aftermath of and watching what I did and the trauma that I've seen but I don't have PTSD but
1:16:07
the ones talking **** about me for sure do because you would help me to lead to a conclusion
1:16:13
but instead you distracted, you caused me harm and I don't
1:16:18
know. A lot of people don't know but on July 20th, 2022, right before I went to that wildland firefighter foundation
1:16:25
to get a public records form and before I went to station seven, I was attacked in Boise,
1:16:32
Idaho. And on July 18th, Betty Ash from Wildland Firefighter Foundation said the Holy Spirit told her, don't go to that
1:16:39
interview on Friday. Something bad's going to happen to you. And then on the twentieth,
1:16:44
something bad did happen to me. I had to size it up. And the behavior and the mannerisms I
1:16:52
saw, after a year of giving and being good to the Wildland Fire Foundation, you know it. I did fundraisers, became a $1300
1:16:58
lifetime member, did gifts all through the to encourage and be
1:17:06
just try to be and I don't want to belong. I don't need to belong to anything but god. but I was trying to be interactive and trying to you know, they do
1:17:12
a lot of hard work. So, I was trying to show appreciation with my grandmother's money. It
1:17:18
wasn't my money. It was my grandmother's money when she died And to have him Burke
1:17:25
Miner call and if you go and look at my post, it was a high
1:17:31
priority call. Go look what a high priority call with law enforcement means. Over a Public Records Forum I when
1:17:41
Scotty Briggs told me that she was asking, you know what? The best thing that he he should
1:17:47
have done there is said, You know, let's get Joy on the phone. Let's start bridging you
1:17:52
guys together. You know, instead of creating this division, you know, and and did something like that but he didn't because he's working on
1:17:58
a film and a project and he's trying to follow, you know, make everybody happy. He's just that kind of guy. He doesn't
1:18:05
mean, he has not a mean bone in his body. He doesn't and he and
1:18:10
he would never do anything intentional or unintentional to hurt me. I know it. But it hurts deeply. But let me tell
1:18:17
you something. He's permanent out because how can I applaud
1:18:24
and accolades and awards? Ooh, Vegas gave you an award on a film about Vicky Minor. When in
1:18:31
reality, It has destroyed a friendship
1:18:41
I didn't need counseling. As you told her, in the month of September, what I needed was
1:18:46
the truth in that public records form. and I still
1:18:52
haven't gone it over 90 days. I need to have things to lead to
1:18:57
a conclusion and the are one of my things on a shelf. On the
1:19:03
aftermath of the Arnold Hill Fire, we had too many deaths and horrific deaths. Some of the external deaths with the
1:19:10
tumors. I wouldn't wish on anybody. Zombie like. Yeah.
1:19:20
and yet I have two brain tumors. Mine are okay guys.
1:19:26
Mine are okay. I keep constantly in check on my stuff. I have chronic health issues. But I'm always on top
1:19:32
of it. I'm pissed right now. Cuz I work so hard from the March all the way up till July
1:19:38
20th. I was walking 4 AM to 8 AM and then 4 PM to 8 PM. Had a
1:19:44
good solid regimen. I was putting the weight off. After I got that blow to the liver. I
1:19:51
thought I wasn't going to make it. I really strongly felt I wasn't going to pull through
1:19:56
from that and I still have a lot of abnormal labs and working through some areas.
1:20:02
It's slow process But in recent times, I talked to a person
1:20:09
here in knew a lot of the people my father knew and it's been nice to bridge the special
1:20:17
moment for me because it bridged me to history. I am history of Congress. I am the
1:20:24
longest running person you'll ever meet. On the Date Creek or the Weaver Mountains and I'm talking total history. I'm the
1:20:32
one that's out there all the time. And yet to be united in
1:20:39
the past two plus weeks. It's a honor to know Hello. That was a
1:20:49
21zero number whoever that was. But anyways Yeah, there's so
1:20:56
much more to Gary. I could be here all the time but I told a certain Tucson school teacher,
1:21:02
I'd sit and do this one moment and just be me and talk and then and fill in some gaps but
1:21:08
there's a lot of gaps. The city of Prescott can fill in. I guarantee you that. And I want
1:21:15
those kids to know that and so for family members. And it's not completed. And it's not a
1:21:21
finished product. And it shouldn't be a product 19 lives died and we almost lost our
1:21:27
lives. And so many people were affected on the Yarnell fire. **** If I had a lot of money,
1:21:34
it wouldn't even do anything. You understand? It wouldn't help. Yeah, it it you can't take back some of those losses.
1:21:43
It's a great loss. **** the families that I know some people think it's weird but I'm
1:21:49
very in tune on some level of I don't know. It's a voicemail.
1:21:54
It distracted me. I thought but yeah, you got to listen to
1:22:00
Yavapai County Sheriff's Office. You see where I'm at. This is my process and two
1:22:07
deputies right now can help a healing and why they gathered bones and who gotten their ears
1:22:13
to gather those bones near the helms with the GPS locations here and the map where I stare
1:22:18
at it because I framed it. has the names on it. The name of
1:22:24
the firefighters. Why would you do that? Who got in your ears? That's the answers I want to
1:22:29
know. Who got in your ears and where's the break? Why the break? And chain of evidence. Where is the rest? It would
1:22:35
have went to a medical examiner. Please help me. And then that's where I'm at. God
1:22:41
bless everybody. That's where I'm at. On the Yavapai County
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