10: FJS emailed me. He is coming to Yarnell this month- and I replied seems SB and Jackson are here now- I am unavailable today for visiting.
Looking at my great grandfather's history---at age 11 he was living with Uncle Charley Dean Doan and Aunt Nancy Doan
[ who my mother is named after ]
What I am learning at such a young age (11) my great grandpa knew his family role- Farm Laborer.
My great grand uncle is CHARLES DEAN DOAN of PENNSYLVANIA (June 1848) (51) (his parents are both from Pennsylvania) who was married 14 years at this 1900 census to Nancy Doan [ her parent are from paternal MS and maternal NC ] and he was a Farmer. My great grandpa was his nephew. He did not do farm labor for four months and attended school three months.
Trinity set me up for my cancer check in - so see you then...glad to not have gone anywhere today---
Not to go offtrack but Ancestry sent me a link to my dad so I opened it up- putting his stuff here too:
My father was 2-
this was what my Papa and Mama looked like:
Papa and my great grandma:
Great Grandpa Benjamino Spinelli (49) (Italy) and Great Grandma (46) (NY) were HEAD of this place:
with the following kids living there:
Arlene (14)
Benjamin (9) - so my dad's Uncle was 7 years apart
My grandpa was 27 (Kalamazoo Michigan) and my grandma was 21
and his brother Robert Kent all lived there- Aunt Ruthie was not born yet.
My father's grandfather [ Pelligrino Benjamino Spinelli] [ B. July 19 1901- D. January 1, 1996]
In 1940, at age 39, he lived 1940 A D 2, New York, Richmond, New York, USA
He arrived on the boat from Italy in 1904 at the age of 3.
In 1915- at age 4 -he lived in New York, Kings
he lived here at age 9: 1910 Manhattan Ward 19, New York, New York, USA
my great grandma Lillas May Burbank (Spinelli) :
Frank Burbank (50) (his Parents were born in NY) (Clerical Work- Lumber Yard) married to Katie "Kittie" Hoffman (1873–1931) (46)(Father: German/Mother: Ireland) [ my great great grandparents] and they had Frank's sister Mary C (57) (no job) (Native Tongue spoken: German)(Father: German/Mother: Ireland) , a son Frank (23) (Machinist helper- Iron Industry) and my Great Grandma Lillas (17)(Facoy Paper Co- Pen Man), and she had a sister Pearl Schaefer (25) (No job) and Vera Schaefer (2) was a granddaughter to my great grandma's parents.
Washington Avenue: mortgaged home
Grandview Avenue - 1950 -
Great Grandpa Benjamin J Spinelli (47) (Birthplace: Italy) (working 40hrs a week as an oiler at an oil refine company) Lillas Spinelli (46) (NY) (housewife), my Aunt Arlene is 14, My Uncle Ben is 9,
my grandpa (Michigan) and grandma (NY) are 27 and 21 & he did 48 hours a week as a millwright at a plaster factory and she was a housewife. My Uncle Bob and my Dad (2) are on this census but not Aunt Ruthie.
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Have you all noted yet- most the women besides a few were just housewives just like me? Did you also note even though my family had City or Country living- they lived in times they worked hard to see not much return so I have not much ancestry roots to be clout chasing...more like cloud chasing. Soft giggles. I am the most real person you will meet.
My father stated the reason he went into law enforcement for work was due to his height but also in school he belonged to the Patrol group and that is his photo above plus he played football and he wore my number "33" as that was my number when I played Sports.
the yearbook you can see me in track wearing 33 like my dad wore 33 for football was Jackson High- NJ but not yet ready to go to that rabbit hole but in quick search found these:
this my fourth great grandfather who fought in the American Revolutionary War- too cool to have a relative a part of significant American history:
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(15) Select a Gift Subscription | Ancestry doing a 14 day trial.RECEIVED- THANK YOU :) for my birthday gift helps when I am unwell to learn about the Family History - sharing it here because I am transparent to where I come from and who I am and if it blocks the living in email link just reach me and I can send you snippets or after done- do it here--- but some family prefer me to keep it first name basis ???
So, these are my aunts and uncles and my parents:
Just so you know the way our families; both maternal and paternal, was like- the family we saw as kids did not engage in adulthood unless you lived in that five to ten mile radius. As kids though we camped every moment we could as a huge family unit here in Arizona --- we loved Alpine and Pine/Strawberry AZ- the colder elevation.
Just how it went.
That goes back through the ancestral lineage.
Once an adult, you do adult stuff, [no camping with the cousins- that ended]
and if you had your own family... you did your own family day to day stuff.
My maternal grandfather held a huge country style Family Reunion with banjos and fiddles and loads of home cooked foods once a year in Red Banks, MS to catch up and a time to celebrate family.
Then my paternal grandmother was huge on Holidays and Game Nights and that was her connection but hers was every single week.
I participated in my grandfather's reunions as an adult but not my grandmother's because it was too catty like, and I actually wanted no chaos in my adult life and distance was a factor but also in my twenties I was an endurance bicyclist and to ride over to and from my family's was 64 miles and it took almost 4-4.5 total time to ride with talking to folks on the way - nostalgia points in travel-
and when I got there sometimes- I would ride up to "Chaos" so it began to have me go less and less that way and head to the Superstition Mountains and hike nature or be by a lake or creek. I missed my moments by the water watching my father and grandfather enjoy their beers.
It was weird because it was the decade where you saw people talking about 12 step programs heavily and rehabs and I thought I just saw two men having nice father and son times- they both work long hard days so why not enjoy another's company by a fire drinking beers. ???
I did not see the politics of it like others with their "you need to get help, Bill" when I felt the people around my father needed the help of letting people live their own life, please and stop interfering.
I remember family "judging" as saying my father was cold and cut off /distant and he needed to stop drinking--- big a%% campaign it was--- involving all his friends and family even this beautiful professional [correctional officer -health system ] blue-eyed blonde ex of his that had her own daughter too, he really really liked and loved her but she cheated on him [I still have their cute little love notes] ---why bring in her?
That's when I learned people can really suck. My dad wanted someone who would allow him to be him, but also he wanted that good looking blue eyed blonde at his side...since my mother left, he never fell for another until this woman so to have people try to get him to stop with using an ex that cheated or was talking to another man on the payphone when he was in his car when they were to be monogamous--- ??? he was monogamous, he was smittened. why was she on the payphone talking casual to another man in the manner she did ???
they even got my grandpa to stop drinking to set the example and all I saw was too much of a smear campaign and folks---reality check- GOD IS LOVE - simple as that--- everyone of us has some sort of vice ...
so sometimes the problem could be just the people "judging" - you don't like someone's actions and you knew that person like that when you met them, then I would say go away ---see the front door- bye Felicia - but do not go away in a way I had to watch my father face. He was totally cheated-
I thought why are others getting to make these insertions when all I saw was a man who did a very highly mentally demanding job [law enforcement and other jobs] and if on his off time he wanted to drink- then do it. I am a live and let live kinda person. I do not drink or smoke but for sure if someone wants to- it is THEIR life.
If they had an issue with it- stay away then.
However, God showed me a few who drink after that life phase, and I got to see many ways alcohol shifts things ...
but I still believe if you do not like a person's drinking then why you doing all the manners you do --- to make things worse? Leave them alone.
I also dislike how I would hear "Joy, your father...he is shutting people off and grown cold." --- Maybe 'ya think' he was just tired of all the lies, omissions, manipulations and projecting that was done his way and behind his back. Maybe he woke up and smelled the coffee and bullshit. ???
I also remember how many decades went by when a specific person kept holding on until they died on the molestation they saw [which I must say- that generation saw an unusual amount of that ill manners as I got to know people along the way in this lifetime]
- I was like "when you gonna let go of the past???"
That was ...what ... decade ??? and how many generations of kids ya gonna not know because you want to hold tight to the victim role. ???
I got sick of hearing it vs. them getting them to think healthy minded ways but nah I saw that person become such a manipulator and they thought they had to be catered to...I walked away from knowing that area- best "self-care" thing I did for my life.
I have seen some real messed up trauma in my lifetime, yet I allow myself to allow God to show me who is to be in my space, and I go from there- learn the lessons I am to have. What I am saying I do not go LOOKING for life to happen- I wait for God to show me...
I really am blessed because I rarely allow people in my immediate space and kept life more on a professional level in my lifetime - I have minimal areas to say "lesson learned"...
WFF Burk Minor would be one that is the most memorable because none of that was agenda or orchestrated- That April 2021, the Helm family got people over their home to have a meeting and for some reason, me being open and giving them all the peoples' contacts so they knew who would be on the newly bought neighboring land- instead they get political and also had the cops there -
so, I felt buffaloed how Summer 2021 -when signs were giving to YCSO Sgt D. Ashby that even those body cams show the Helms drive right by me on a golf cart with YCSO present plus on body cam, it identifies where I was told boundaries were by owner and YCSO heard me state that on body cam so the very stance they were trying to get me for ---
I would have had enough to counter it was bogus and proof I was a target on a land I was just helping out on- I do not even own the land- Scottie Briggs and Fred John Schoeffler do own it.
Anyways, that debacle during the time I was so ill was a total bullsh!%.
Then when I witnessed sides being taken - and division happened. Bunch of horseshit especially as ill as I was/am.
Dan from Idaho shared to me how Vicki Minor was interviewed by Scottie Briggs June 2021, and he was introduced to Burk Minor from there- I was not talking with him at that phase.
So, when I had the Canadian reach me on that Burk Minor video- I really did not put it into anything---I just knew July 17th, I spent time with Scottie at his place and he was attempting to fix a social media thing with FJS and me ...
and Scottie created "Joyous Kahula" FB page which was new for me to have a page of my own vs the FB extension off FJS which is all his pages, and I added Scottie as a whatever they call it "following/friend" button and once I did- I reckon all the WFF stuff gets tagged to Scottie then ended up on my FB timeline- never in my wildest thoughts did I think a few days later I would be talking and as long as we did-
anyone who knows me knows I ramble on Investigative Media or the blog here or to Scottie at times or FJS but not many can say I call them and gab like I did that night but I also listened...
anyways never would I just get up and go hours later, out of state, but I think the regimen and all the bad ill moments in 2019-2021 that going to do this spontaneous moment to tour the WFF- just was like sooo neat---something away from my ghost town. I was very happy. No person can take that away from me ever.
It was pure happiness- even when I heard what I did, and I ended back home as fast I was there- I was home. I was shocked Summer 2022, I was on some kind of weird a%% bogus radar and cops were called on me yet after a full year of cheerleading/fundraisers/etc. ??? had I not been brutally assaulted to the abs and I went to Boise Idaho's Station 7---and if WFF was not on that walk to my hotel room---and had I not taking the 2022 Expansion Tour and bawled deeply thinking of Carol---wondered, would we be friends today? Or did all those people who got in his ears have any factor in all this? I just go on in life but occasionally think back ...
I guess because I met him on the aftermath of this darn fire may have something to do with it, but he is my forever hero and even though it happened so brief and quick--- I learned the MOST lessons. What an amazing person I got to meet, briefly. I pray every day for him and his family/friends. Also, I walk my property and this song comes on and I just smile/giggle: https://youtu.be/BaK4IRaTA7Y?feature=shared"
I have come a long ways from 2019-2021 ill ways but I still have the head pain and bilateral infection - the Summer 2022 brutal assault aftermath stuff- and lack the true financial resources to really work on that area-- so I get to walk and polar plunge and watch my intake and be stout and not get the proper look at but blood labs every 3-6 months and watch me slowly deteriorate in health- what a journey - especially knowing I come from a wealthy lineage but really all my wealth is my relationship with Jesus.
-it is weird when I am doing the GENEALOGY of my extensive family history to see I am G-daughter of Civil/Revolutionary War and even have Lords and Countess and King history and my one blood line I have so far documented back to actual scripture in the Bible. I have a documented rich bloodline I plan to journal to you all the documents and if I got to see some of that wealth, I would get me healthy and worked on and truly I mapped/budgeted it out that in one year if I wanted to get me well- it would take $83,500 for medical but need a new vehicle to get back and forth for the medical plus gas so I just keep doing my walks and polar plunges and keep people for the most part away except for a few-
I thought about selling the home since they want a lot for our homes but too weak to really make it a go- but I thought if we sold then it is just as expensive to start over.
But I guarantee you, it sickens me to see HOW MANY feel it is MY TRUTH on Donna Gordon/YHF13' when the proof is in the pudding- watch Donna's last minutes and dare tell me it is MY TRUTH in my own living room 5-22-24 when I was having severe head pains/chest pains and just lost a family friend that day and you come up with some bogus medical analysis when you are just an EMT---that was why I went there on the Yarnell with you...God Bless those who project such a thing...God is watching. I know I have done the difficult right thing when I cross over to Him.
I spent a lot of time with my hubby's family in the 90's- my mother-in-law and I enjoyed our walks together:
At that time in my early twenties, we all had a high income family friend from 1994-2011 who played that "family friend" role, Tom, who knows Country Singer, George Strait, he was our weekly nearby "family" who was big on taking us and the neighborhood out to dinner and that was just how it went or the Casino he would pay for all of us to play BINGO. He moved to help one of the Andrew Sisters back in 2010.
I am not wasting time adding my cousins to the family tree because again in my entire history if I was not the one the placing efforts out- then never heard from any of them. So, rather focus my time to ANCESTOR history on this gifted Birthday subscription.
Cousins as follow:
Uncle Bob and Aunt Ruth: Scottie, Robbie, Elaine- saw them at my father and grandma's funerals- nothing further in my adult life--- 1972-1981 active in my life on/off, and 1988-1989. Zero interactions unless I made the effort.
Uncle Bob and Aunt Gayle: Tammy -in the 90's she made a trauma call to me when my number was unpublished, in the early 2000s I went with her and her son to a water park, 1972-1981 active in my life on/off, and 1988-1989. Nothing but out of all of us cousins, she saw hard times. Zero interactions unless I made the effort.
Uncle Bob and Aunt Ellen/ Ann: Matthew and Suzie- saw them both in the 80's and also in the 90's saw Suzie before she had children at Mississippi Family Reunions. Zero interactions unless I made the effort.
Uncle Billy and Aunt Fran(cine): Tommy, John, and Kirsten- met once in NJ
Uncle Elmer and Aunt Eydie: Cousin Stephen and Lynn (RiP)- knew them in NJ in the 80's.
now let's go look at my Dad and Mom's parents:
Mama and Papa
and Grandma & Grandpa.
I learned budgeting and housewife chores from Mama- I really had minimal interactions with my Grandmother, but it would be Holiday type events.
My grandpas were and will always be my everything and I miss them deeply...every moment of my life---
Papa: I miss just being at the lake with him and my father as they drank beers and fished, and I miss his cooking. I learned so much about hunting from him.
Grandpa: I miss ocean and bay fishing with him and the Mississippi Family Reunions, his gardens and good cooking. I learned how to kill a chicken and pig from him.
I truly miss them both equally but had more together time with Papa.
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